Jailing an old lady and exhuming a body to be lynched post-mortem will not win the Opposition an election

The Philippine Opposition led by the Liberal Party (a.k.a. the Yellowtards) are currently busy celebrating the conviction and impending arrest of former First Lady Imelda Marcos. This, of course, is seen to be a defining moment as, from their prespective, this “development” pulls a key pillar holding up what they call the “revisionist” take on Philippine history non-Yellowtards espouse — that the “Marcos Regime” was not all bad.

It is important that the Opposition camp revisit the whole point of the frantic messaging they are sending out to the Philippine electorate in the lead up to the coming elections — that theirs is an attractive alternative to the still-popular administration of President Rodrigo Duterte. Recognising this, the confronting question the Yellowtards need to ask themselves is whether the messages they are sending out will actually win them an election. What are these messages that they need to evaluate from the perspective of election-winning effectiveness? There really are only two broad classes of traditional messages the Yellowtards send out — (1) Martial Law Crybabyism and (2) the “decency” and moral uprightness of the Yellowtard cause. Beyond these two, there is not much else.

The thing is, these two messages are nothing new. Both have formed the core of the Yellowtard narrative since the 1970s. Of course the Yellow brand, taken literally, did not exist until the assassination of former Senator Benigno “Ninoy” Aquino Jr in 1983. But the Yellowtard mindset pre-dates 1983 if we compare the “thought leaders” of the 1970s to those of the 21st Century — like characters for like characters. What is important to note is that the messaging did not change. To the credit of the Yellowtards, they remained consistent in their monomania over the last half century of shrill “activism”. Even more important is that they remain consistent with this messaging approach despite the spectacular loss at the polls they experienced in 2016 and the bigger loss Imperial Manila sustained to a Dark Horse from the southern frontier.

In short, nothing was learned from that loss. Instead, what the Opposition are doing is ratcheting up the volume, shrillness, and rawness of the same rhetoric. With Imelda convicted and Ferdinand buried, they are now suggesting that the old lady be imprisoned at Bilibid and the remains of her late husband dug up and paraded on Manila’s streets to the satisfy the bloodlust of their lot. The same Yellowtard-brand street parliamentarianism but with the artistic liberties of a generation raised on Game of Thrones and The Nun applied for dramatic effect, right?

Will such stunts convert votes from their opposing camps?

Unlikely.

The traditional wisdom in the business of election “strategic” planning is that campaign messaging should be directed to the swing votes — that sliver of a voter base representing a community of “undecideds”. This may not work in the highly-polarised political landscape today, one where a hard line between the DDS (“Die-hard Duterte Supporters”) and the Yellowtards has been drawn. It does not help either that the Yellowtards, perhaps thanks to their cosy inbred relationship with the Catholic Church, have framed this campaign as a good-versus-evil narrative further motivating opposing camps to dig their heels in even deeper. More disturbing is that the Opposition are actually up against a popular opponent — which means every vote counts, which, in turn, means that they should be targetting conversion of the DDS as well even if it means taking long shots.

Under that light, it is easy to see how, this early, the Opposition are setting themselves up for failure. The ill-thought-out tililing rampage of jailing old ladies and digging up corpses may appeal to their addled minds. But from the perspective of the broader Filipino public, a society that reserves the highest forms of reverence for the elderly and harbours a superstitious fear of anything to do with the dead, this is a campaign that is machinegunning its own foot.

The Opposition — at least those of its members who’ve got decent brains to apply to their cause — should seriously re-evaluate the conduct of its arguably well-meaning but loudest “activists”. Better yet, make that long-overdue executive decision. Ditch the Yellowtards.

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73 Comments on “Jailing an old lady and exhuming a body to be lynched post-mortem will not win the Opposition an election”

  1. “Jailing an old lady and exhuming a body to be lynched post-mortem will not win the Opposition an election” – benign0

    It is not winning an election it is about crime-&-punishment regardless of age. That deported Gestapo from Chicago back to Germany was 89-years-old. Brutal Irish mobster in the lamp for decades caught in Santa Monica California was 80-ish. Sent to jail was lynched mob his tongue pulled out of his mouth of being a rat.

    It would be wonderful to commit a crime … be on a lam for decades … balikbayan after 80 years-old and go home free met with Beaujolais in crystal goblet driven out in gleaming European.

    I INVITE ALL CRIMINALS IN THE WORLD TO RETIRE IN THE PHILIPPINES IN THEIR 80s YOU ARE FREE TO ROAM …

    1. True and I agree. Thing is, though, this crime-and-punishment spiel is being used as the kernel of an Opposition campaign. And that is the main point I make here.

      1. @benign0

        Marcos is the biggest fish of them all. Every other corrupt official is ‘small fry’. They are basically patient zero in the apocalyptic hellscape of the philippines.The fact that they were never caught means the virus lives on to this day.

        The Marcoses in power shows that JUSTICE is truly dead in 2018 philippines. Now paid hacks like you try to white-wash their name.

        SAD!

        1. Marcos is the biggest fish of them all. Every other corrupt official is ‘small fry’. They are basically patient zero in the apocalyptic hellscape of the philippines.The fact that they were never caught means the virus lives on to this day.

          The Marcoses in power shows that JUSTICE is truly dead in 2018 philippines. Now paid hacks like you try to white-wash their name.

          SAD!

          Lies. Marcos isn’t the biggest fish anymore. Because when you try to enumerate what the post-Marcos people did in over 30 years, he became an amateur by comparison. Those are facts. Yours is half-truth.

          Justice is already dead in the Philippines AFTER 1986. And you’re only solely blaming one tainted surname while keep on ignoring the guys who replaced them. And you keep on white-washing them as well.

          It’s much sadder because you’re hypocritical on your statements.

  2. What exactly took years and years and decades after decades loot unrecovered … murders uncharged until now?

    Oh, yeah, midterm election is next year, 2019. May. I love pOLITICS IN THE PHILIPPINES. Filipinos just lose their minds over POLITICS.

    For Filipinos to forget their miseries I SUGGEST FILIPINOS HAVE ELECTION EVERY 6 MONTHS !!! Woooo Hoooo !!!!!

  3. Here is my suggestions to Filipino Criminals … Loot-&-Kill … fly to America because in America requires solid evidence not notarized typewritten affidavits … live until 90s … fly back to Philippines … retire and live ever after …

    Why?

    Jailing 90 year old criminal is inhumane …

  4. If they, the Opposition, thinks that their same-old banter would win them the elections next year, they’re already doomed.

    It’s time for us to move forward and look into the future. Only old people would look on this but how about the younger generation?

    1. YES, THAT IS RIGHT! Opposition thought same old banter would win them elections … FREE IMELDA MARCOS … FREE THE CROOKS … FREE MURDERERS … BECAUSE THEY ARE 90 YEARS OLD … THAT IS SOOOOO INHUMANE ….

      *** KILL NOW … NEVER DIE LATER ***

      CAUTION: FILIPINOS THINKING

    2. @SirenStriker

      We cannot move on to the future without learning from the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately due to marcos paid hack cronies like benign0, the future generation is confused and muddled. This is the great failure of edsa, and the result of the fake news era.

      Filipinos are unfortunately gullible, they believe snack oil salesmen like GRP and the news that come from the FAKE TITS of mocha unson.

      Now the country is at severe risk of MARTIAL LAW 2.0 under the DEAR LEADER BONG BONG marcos. It took germany 2 world wars to learn their lesson. Hopefully the philippines can avoid the same type of misery!

      1. We cannot move on to the future without learning from the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately due to marcos paid hack cronies like benign0, the future generation is confused and muddled. This is the great failure of edsa, and the result of the fake news era.

        Filipinos are unfortunately gullible, they believe snack oil salesmen like GRP and the news that come from the FAKE TITS of mocha unson.

        Now the country is at severe risk of MARTIAL LAW 2.0 under the DEAR LEADER BONG BONG marcos. It took germany 2 world wars to learn their lesson. Hopefully the philippines can avoid the same type of misery!

        Lies. We never learned because we are trying to correct our mistakes by just STICKING TO IT rather than to create a HOPE of a future. And the future generation is already confused and muddled because of people like and the biased mainstream media, who wants to maintain the status quo.

        And no, Filipinos are already gullible because of people like you and those who believed in the Aquino-Cojuangco hype machine after 1986, with the media who runs the wheel. You’re just grasping on straws.

        And here’s another no: what you wanted is a FIRST QUARTER STORM 2.0 and a PLAZA MIRANDA BOMBING 2.0. And the Philippines is already in a misery for over 30 years. Everything you’ve said is pure Yellow Propaganda. Nice try.

      2. You can’t even explain this:

        “…Ferdinand Marcos Sr.’s declaration of Martial Law was once again commemorated. And once again the country got bombarded with the romance of perpetrator-victim storyline, meant to tug the heartstrings of the young, so their emotions could be weaponized against the political enemies of the storytellers.

        The story has taken a religious tone: it’s a battle between good and evil. However, it’s told in its secularized form. Marcos gets “Hitlerized,” while the Communists and their conspirators were reduced into his helpless victims, sadistically dealt with by “the dictator” for the pure pleasure of inflecting pain on them. As a response to the demonization of Marcos, his loyalists peddle narratives of his apotheosis.

        The result: A nation that couldn’t come to terms with the past, which is only possible through historical understanding.”

        Read the full post here: https://forthemotherland.net/2018/10/11/commentary-weaponizing-trauma/?fbclid=IwAR0RVBOCNZ5QO330o35fRIKmj4QN-dLsQ9VdIzqUK78pKA_uMDhP6HmWmV4

  5. The noisy American Imperialist Oratio, with his crazy wild claims, can sometimes be funnier than Palito, Babalu or Cachupoy, without even trying…

    How come? Well, read on…

    If we go by an actual list of historically wrongful convictions in the United States, with some “using circumstantial evidence as well as SPECTRAL EVIDENCE(!!!)” and false witnesses since the early 1900s, that “includes people who have been legally exonerated, including people whose convictions have been overturned and have not been retried, as well as people who have not been formally exonerated but are widely considered to be factually innocent”, we can safely state that Oratio Imperata, though can be comedic, is either just a natural arrogant, out of his reality or simply a spreader of FAKE NEWS!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States

    Fast-forward to present…

    What ever happened to America’s supposedly accurate and heavy reliance to SCIENTIFIC SOLID EVIDENCE with the accusation then conviction of Mr. Richard Phillips that’s being bragged about? Hmmm…

    How come this American black man had spent more years behind bars than any other wrongfully imprisoned person in America, who labored 45 LONG YEARS in prison, for a crime he didn’t commit! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk…

    And as it turned out, the USELESS FORENSIC EVIDENCE did not work out with the lying ACCUSER who turned to be the real MURDERER! Bummer!!!

    Mr. Philips was exonerated only late last year and becomes a free man again at 72 years of age.

    Bigot Oratio’s ‘KANO SHAM “system failed him. There’s no question about it.”

    Bleah!

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/30/us/detroit-man-wrongfully-excused-of-murder-released-trnd/index.html

    1. TRULY YOU’VE BEEN WATCHING TFC than watching Axios, TheHill, Politico, Vox … Your brain is contaminated with Philippine Fake News. Have you ever read how many incarcerated Americans been freed because of forensic evidences? I DOUBT YOU KNEW because if you did you wouldn’t be haranguing me with fake assaults.

    2. @Patton

      Oratio Imperata isn’t really a white boi. Look at the way he writes and reacts (Filipinos write in english in a certain way). He’s just some wanna-be BAKLA self-hating pilipino

      1. I knew it! I knew it! You are 100% unadulterated brown skin Filipino whose main news diet is The Filipino Channel. How I found out? The word “BAKLA” !!! As what I predicted in my previous comments eventually “GAY” word would be tapped out of their fingers.

        This is what happens when Filipinos ran out of ideas to debunk my statement. My Pinay GF was right !

    3. How many Filipinos been exonerated and exorcised? ZERO! NADA! ZILCH!
      How many Filipinos who rose from the dead that were found guilty-by-drive-by-shooting? NIEN !!!
      How long does it take to settle land dispute? Till death !!!

      THAT CANNOT HAPPEN IN THE U.S. Well, it happens but not that many …

      1. @Oratio Imperata

        …. you mean “not that much”

        You FAKER white boi, self – hating brown skin BAKLA.
        Try not to get too much std from your imaginary GF, as you BJ yourself.

        BOL

        1. Oratio is right, you’re not wise at all. AD HOMINEM is the only thing you’re good at and it’s sad. Really.

        2. Aha! Ha! Ha! Darth-Not-Wise … Aha! Ha! Ha!

          Many modifies things that can be counted (i.e., count nouns). Much modifies things that can’t be counted (i.e., mass nouns). In other words, many tends to modify plural nouns, and much tends to modify singular nouns.

          Please stop correcting my English. Aha! ha! ha!

          But it was a good try. Now, try nice try. Then let us talk English. aha! ha! ha! Oh, you, poor unloved deprived of childhood Darth.

  6. The AquinoCojuangco political axis, cannot find a new way to get votes, and have their candidates get elected. They have to bring out their “bogeyman”, Marcos Sr. , who had been dead for more than 30 years. Imelda Marcos, his widow, is the one alive. So, they have to jail her.

    Rudy Farinas, the congressman from Ilocos Norte, want to run for governor. He want also to put his own political dynasty in Ilocos Norte. This crook , is an ally of the Aquinos.

    The Sandigan Bayan Court has now become a Political Tool of the Aquino Cojuangco political axis. The Judge who rendered the guilty verdict on Imelda Marcos, has prostituted justice on the order of the Aquino Cojuangco political axis.

    There are any cases, waiting to be prosecuted and resolved.

    The disappearance of the Typhoon Yolanda Fund, made by Mar Roxas. This crook is running for Senator, as an independent. Do not vote for him.

    The DAP, PDAF, Pork Barrel Bribery, done by Aquino and his minions, who got very rich from this thievery. The DengVaxia vaccine, that murdered many innocent children, as ordered by Aquino and Garin. Both of these crooks, did not even spare innocent children, for sales commissions.

    Former COMELEC Chief, Andres Bautista, who is hiding with his loots of billions of pesos, in the U.S. This Aquino crook, was the implementor of the 2016 election fraud, with his HOCUS PCOS and SMART SWITIK machines.

    It is very obvious that we have a corrupted justice system, held hostage by the Aquno Cojuangco political axis and their minions !

    1. Benigno Aquino was involved in that pharmacy vaccination scam AND NEVER GOT CHARGED !!! Benigno Aquino allowed Filipino children as guinea pig for that French Pharmaceutical company.

      Benigno Aquino is 58 years old. It will take 32 years to prove Benigno Aquino got money from French Pharmaceutical company and making Filipino children guinea pigs. BY THAT TIME BENIGNO AQUINO WILL HAVE TURNED 90 YEARS OLD. HE WILL BE FREE AND FREED !!!

      Benigno Aquino also wasted taxpayers money on 50-caliber armed Hamilton-class frigates that have never seen the waters of Scarborough Shoals. And the helicopters? Well, the helicopters were bought to transport PMAyers and their mistresses to far-away destinations. And the SWAT and Special Forces? They are used to drive around PMAyers and their mistresses and guard them from loving someone else.

      Mar Roxas who was touted as Economics guro graduate from Princeton? He was Assistant Vice-President which in the U.S. Wall Street parlance a COFFEE BOY !!!

    2. SALN IS A POLITICAL TOOL. COA is political authority that reports to the President to check on political enemies SALNs.

      SALN is legal political blackmail !!!

      I love Philippines.

  7. @benign0

    It’s called looking for JUSTICE you paid Marcos HACK. The country can never truly move on until it confronts the sins of the past. Imagine the SON OF HITLER, who denies the holocaust and claims Germany was best at the 3rd reich, running for elections in germany, would you vote for him?!?!

    In Germany, it is illegal to parade about nazi symbols and the salute. And most in Germany have a negative opinion on the 3rd reich despite its technical advances and bringing germany out of a recession. You wouldn’t know this benign0 because you dont do any research for your articles.

    The Marcoses were never served justice because of Filipino compassion and the shady workings of secret marcos cronies. And now PAID HACKS like GRP is trying to absolve them of their sins.

    There is no secure future if we do not learn from the past. This is why the country is at risk of MARTIAL LAW 2.0.

    FAIL!

    1. Lies. It’s not about justice but ‘crybaby-ism’ on your part. Bringing in Hitler and Nazi Germany makes you immature and petty because Marcos is just a kindergarten compared to that by comparison.

      The Marcoses were never served justice because they were not allowed to and the Yellows let others do it but failed (until right now). In fact, Marcos, while under exile in Hawaii, keeps on sending emissaries as they sent a message: he wanted to return to the Philippines to face those accusations in the courts. The “shady workings of secret Marcos cronies” claim is a half-truth because they’re in the same bed with Aquino-Cojuangco cronies as well. In fact, it’s also Cory’s fault because she ruled in fear and hatred of Marcos. And I bet you would do the same thing.

      And like I said, you want to remain the status quo and not to secure our future. Because of your stupid “let’s always stick to the past” notion of correcting our mistakes, we don’t have a future to look forward to. And no, what you’re looking forward is a FIRST QUARTER STORM 2.0. Try again, kid.

      1. @SirenStriker shitter

        How is falling back to Martial law “securing our future”?

        You already have the FREEDOM to secure your own damn future. Instead of waiting for a BENEVOLENT DICTATOR DEAR LEADER so you can suck on the tit of government.

        It’s like this website. Benign0 has the chance to make it comparable with his Western peers in terms of User Interface and the level of depth of his analysis (using data driven arguments). Instead he has spewed forth the same pseudo intellectual BS the last 10 years.

        Why cant I view comments properly on MY MOBILE benign0?!?!?! Gawd this website is stuck in the 90s or something.

        1. Nope. Getting rid of the abomination known as the 1987 Constitution and make a new one is the only way to secure our future, not your Martial law scaremongering.

          Yeah, we have freedom but because of the Filipinos’ flawed view of freedom being “doing whatever you liked” and “screw responsibility and discipline” that leads to irresponsibility and disrespect to others and ourselves (which you love to defend), we still suck as a country and still a basketcase. China, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia have overtaken the Philippines in a span of 30 years and 5 years from now, the war-ravaged Vietnam will overtake us. And please, we need a Lee Kuan Yew and a Mahathir to get this country back on track, not last names and celebrities. I saw that in Gibo Teodoro and Richard Gordon 8 years ago but they chose Noynoy Aquino instead. You connect the dots.

          Ehem, more like your phone sucked. And if anything, your mind is stuck in the 70s-80s or something.

      1. @benign0

        Just like all your assumptions eh benign0?! What about all the bull-crap that you’ve spatted out over the years. With no proof. No evidence. Nothing to back it up.

        Nothing but silly “air quotes” and ad hominems.

        Sucks the shoe is on the other foot eh?

        1. @benign0

          You ARE a PAID marcos HACK! All your lousy shit blogs confirm it. Using my carabao logic it is easy to deduce this as a fact. Like you, I dont need data to prove that you are part of the troll army meant to discredit the horrors of martial law.

          Your bias is obvious and easy to see based on your articles. People have EYES they can see and EARS that they can hear.

          Since this is just a blog post comment you can take it or leave it!

          CRONY!

        2. You ARE a PAID marcos HACK! All your lousy shit blogs confirm it. Using my carabao logic it is easy to deduce this as a fact. Like you, I dont need data to prove that you are part of the troll army meant to discredit the horrors of martial law.

          Your bias is obvious and easy to see based on your articles. People have EYES they can see and EARS that they can hear.

          Since this is just a blog post comment you can take it or leave it!

          CRONY!

          Son, carabao logic IS terrible logic. There is no facts from emotional appeal, adverbs, adjectives, blatant overrating and exaggerations. With that comment of yours, you’re more of a troll than the author was because you love to make things up. You love to overrate about the “horrors” of martial law but never tried to be constructive about it. If you ask me, it’s a “two sides of the same coin” approach.

          And I disagree about your “People have EYES they can see and EARS that they can hear.” argument. I mean, from who? From the biased mainstream media? From the Yellows? From leftist and Communists? Worse, from people like you? People have SEEN and HEARD were nothing but lies and half-truths made by the Yellows and people like you for the past 30 years. The result is this:

          “And the Philippines LOVES idiots like you who can be easily manipulated on whom to hate and whom to love by just a simple whim”

          Instead of wasting your time here, why you can’t take your shitposting to somewhere else, Yellow Crony?

    1. >>using Rappler as a source

      Congratulations on DESTROYING YOURSELF, son. Rappler isn’t legit because they’re biased to the core. They’re always pandering to the Liberal Party just like the New York Times is pandering to Democrats and left-leaning liberals.

      You’re just a proven AQUINO-COJUANGCO HACK.

      1. @shit stain SirenStriker

        All writers are biased to a certain degree. Which is why you need to ask for data and sources in order to VERIFY the facts and work through the logic. Benign0 has REFUSED to provide any data backing his claims falling back on “i dont want to coz Im cool”.

        Problem is people like you who believe ANYTHING so easily without verifying. I like my news just like I like my boobs, REAL not fake. Not like the FAKE TITS of mocha unson.

        1. All writers are biased to a certain degree. Which is why you need to ask for data and sources in order to VERIFY the facts and work through the logic. Benign0 has REFUSED to provide any data backing his claims falling back on “i dont want to coz Im cool”.

          Problem is people like you who believe ANYTHING so easily without verifying. I like my news just like I like my boobs, REAL not fake. Not like the FAKE TITS of mocha unson.

          You said it yourself that all writers are biased to a certain degree. Because one that is thoroughly one-sided and biased can also be fake as well. And please don’t say that anything that comes from the Yellow Mainstream Media is “real” because of this Malcolm X quote:

          “The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”

          Yep, everything you’ve said is more FAKE because you’re too lazy to have critical thinking and never looked for alternative, unbiased sources. You didn’t even want to mention Tiglao, Jojo Robles, Kit Tatad, and Teddy Boy Locsin because you think that they are the same level as Mocha. That’s stupid on your part.

          Try again.

        2. But DM has a point actually!

          Asking for “data and sources in order to VERIFY the facts and work through the logic”…

          … is a fair given condition, as a requirement if you may, to whoever with an assertion who wants to be seen as someone true and authoritative without being allergic to whatever counter assertion another party may have.

          It makes one’s declaration open to questions by others which makes one accountable therefore responsible!

          Whatever verifiable facts both opposing parties have will settle the issue as oppose to settling issues by opposing opinions.

        3. @Don Kamote:

          No. He doesn’t have a point. Ever.

          There’s a difference between journalism and blogging. Or you want to agree on the flawed notion of “journalism and blogging are the same”. You should know that blogging is always a case of “take it or leave it”. What he wants is to be spoonfed and stick to his childish “fact=opinion” nonsense. You want proof? You have to look for it yourself and make an opinion of it, not to wait for someone who will do it for you. That’s why his point is dumb as it counts to lazy thinking.

          You have to do better than that. Because when dealing with facts and opinions, they’re not actually the same thing. I’ve learned the hard way.

    2. rappler actually bothers to do proper journalism and research. There’s the proper sources in the articles and for their opinion pieces (like by one PHD ECONOMIST) actual DATA.

      You can be a stand-up comedian with this comment since this can be considered as JOKE OF THE DAY. Which it is.

      Rappler didn’t do “proper journalism and research:” more like sycophantic journalism, exaggerations, and sensationalism, just like every biased mainstream media in existence. And you still stuck on your laziness by citing the joke that is Rappler as a source. You love to overrate JC Punongbayan being a PhD economist while he’s also a shady guy since he’s a libertarian economist and that’s a fact; even House Speaker Gloria Arroyo is smarter than JC and you know it. Same goes to Lisandro “Leloy” Claudio, a PHD guy who is actually a leftist scum; he’s a member of Akbayan.

      The next time you comment here, please never use anything from the Yellow Mainstream Media (ABS-CBN, Inquirer and Rappler) because only leftist and Yellowtards do that. That’s why you keep on losing argument after every argument since your only weapons left are emotional outbursts and plain, lazy thinking, like you always do. You need to do better than that, son.

  8. Nazi Germany was full of Death Camps. There was large scale extermination of : Jews, German political prisoners, German handicapped people and other minorities.

    To compare it during Marcos Martial Law time, is just an excessive exaggeration. We did not find any torture camp, during Martial Law years; other than Camp Crame, in Quezon City, managed and run by Fidel Ramos, the Philippine Constabulary Chief, then.

    Fidel Ramos is still alive…go and torture him, until he will reveal how many people he tortured and put to death, during that time !

    1. @676Hyden007Toro8888.989

      LOL tell that to the tens and thousands who suffered. You obviously have no compassion for them coz you are a PAID hack for the marcoses. What if it was YOUR family would you care then?!?!

      Honestly you are a deplorable human being and YOU MAKE ME SICK!

      1. And who are those tens of thousands you’re referring to? Do you think ALL of them are innocent? How about the insurgents, rebels and Communists who fought against the government during that time? If anything, those tens of thousands are on both sides. You need to ask Enrile and Ramos about those abuses because they know more than you do. You can’t even explain about the Steve Psinakis-founded Light A Fire Movement where they planted a bomb in Rustans Makati where 1 American is killed and 70 are injured.

        Oh yeah, when someone here mentions the Mendiola Massacre, you wouldn’t even care. Since you mindset is solely on the Marcoses, you would just ignore the abuses of the post-Marcos years. News flash: the Mendiola Massacre occurred in 1987, a year after EDSA.

        And you know what makes me sick? It’s leftist SJW cucks like you, who are Hillary Clinton fanboys. Her “basket of deplorables” speech is the reason why she lost to Donald Trump. And it confirms that you are always a loser in every argument because I want to ask you this…

        “When was anyone persuaded by being insulted or labeled?”

      2. @DM the Wise/Fool:

        I saw no thousand people who suffered, during Marcos Martial Law…. If there were a thousand of victims, they would had cut to pieces, Fidel Ramos . Former Senator Enrile was the Defense Secretary during the Marcos Martial Law. He was the brain behind Marcos Martial Law. Fidel Ramos was the implementor, or the torturer or the “Death Camp Keeper”, during the Marcos Martial Law.

        Why not ask these people ? They are still alive. Enrile is willing to debate anybody regarding Marcos Martial Law. You can go and drag Fidel Ramos, to tell you about Marcos Martial Law…
        Why are YellowTards like you , hesitant to go after these people ? They were the major players during Marcos Martial Law…

        I am no paid hack of anybody. I earn my living in the U.S. in honest ways. I have a good paying job. The exchange rate of U.S. $1 to Philippine peso , is 54 Philippine peso to U.S. $1…

        I am not a fool to spend my time earning Philippine pesos, like you as a paid hacker. I can earn more than that…You are a despicable YellowTard, with brain full of shit !

        1. Fidel Ramos, Enrile and Honasan are recovering crooks. They were the protector and enabler of Marcos Crime Family for 20 years !!!

          With the brilliance of U.P. Ateneo & la Salle graduates, THESE CROOKS NOT ABLE TO CHECK MARCOS CRIME FAMILY BANK ACCOUNTS WHERE CREDITS ARE COMING FROM but they did know where Renato Corona’s bank credit came from.

          RAPPLER is also a co-conspirator and enabler of crookery by not looking into Marcos Crime Family Bank Accounts so is Banko Sentral ng Pilipinas.

          See, in this country, Democratic Republic of Philippine Islands, they have the means but they only do it for POLITICAL PURPOSES AND PROTECTING POLITICAL PATRONAGE.

          *** EVERYONE IS A CROOK IN THE PHILIPPINES *** The crooks are mostly in their 60s those were born in late 50s. TOO BAD … until all of these people passes away violently or naturally PHILIPPINES WILL BY THEN A PARADISE.

          *** I FOUND YOUNG PEOPLE WORKING THE PHONES IN CALL CENTERS ARE HONEST THAN THOSE OLDER FILIPINOS ***

        2. TO THIS DAY I STILL WONDER WHERE THE MARCOS CRIME FAMILY GET THEIR MONEY FROM to maintain their lifestyles when, what I believe, their bank accounts were frozen back in the days.

  9. Philippines has NO COLLECTED DATA. There are plenty of data points in SALNs and IRS tax filing BUT NOT MINED !!! There is not even data on x number of units in high rises how many of them are lived in and how many are rented out to AirBnB. No data median income and households earning such amount. No data in Fake News circulation. For how long a site visitor stay and read articles and comments.

    Out of 110,000,000 Filipinos deported themselves; OFWs not returning; Filipino Tourists on the lam; Foreigners living in the Philippines and for how long they extended their visas. How many foreigners married to locals.

    Darth Mortis the Un-Wise has his brain in Rigor Mortis. Either Darth is a disillusioned foreigner or just another graduate from the lamented demented U.P.

    Darth Rigor Mortis the Un-Wise could be just another poser Filipino because of his use “BAKLA” and “BOY”. Filipinos naturally learn coarse English as their first word once they are delivered to Philippine’s world.

    Eh, Boy?

    1. RONALD, ONE QUESTION. How old were you and the rest of the people here when Leo Tolstoy, Niccolo Michaevilli, Shakespeare and other dead people you all love to quote?

      Here is my answer to you, Ronald. I do not need to experience Martial Law to know. All I have to do is go to YouTube … Libraries … watch videos and read books …

      UNLESS YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF YOUTUBE AND BOOKS ….

  10. This conviction is long overdue. Talking about Imelda Marcos, this corrupt old woman should have been jailed already for a long time now together with her husband if not for the latter’s demise. As great as Lee Kwan Yew stated in his own observation to the Marcoses “only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over 20 years, be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amount of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics”. This only shows how thick-faced these Marcoses are who refused and still continually refuse to recognize their own sins. And today still wanted to have an uninterrupted power in politics by running endlessly. Please somebody make them stop!

    21 years that Marcos ruled the Philippines, the country had seen enough. In the 1960s when Marcos took over the presidency from his predecessor, it was a highly developed country already next to Japan. At the end of Marcos term, Philippines was 3rd world bankrupt country. Yeah, it summarizes what Lee Kwan Yew stated above why the Philippines is poor when Marcos left office. And now, his family is still seeking power in national seat. Shame on them. They have skin thicker than any other animals in the world combined. They are like Gloria Arroyo and her family who did not change anything in the Philippines for her 9.5 years in office and still keep on trying to stay in power forever. That’s just prove they don’t know what integrity means is. While Aquinos’ presidency only had 12 years combined, Marcos and Arroyo had a whopping 30.5 years in office. Not to mention during Marcos dictatorship’s time, he controlled the government: the executive, legislative and judiciary; the big businesses; the media; and the AFP and yet Philippines lagged behind into 3rd world poor country unlike Singapore. So what Lee Kwan Yew stated above summarizes why the Philippines was 3rd world when Marcos left office because of his corruption and incompetence and bad governance.

    The incoming elections where liberal party might lose is a non sequitur because it is just an assumption by the product of the author’s imagination. Just like how this website assumed the “game over for rappler” and yet rappler is still standing today and giving 24/7 news non-stop day in & out for many months already since the SEC filed a complaint against rappler. The complaint was eventually dismissed by the court.

    For sure, liberal party candidates are not exclusive to national seats for Senators only. They also have Congressmen, Mayors and Councilors which the author failed to mention them in his article that will somehow be winning in elections next year. Though numbers might not be determined but sure some liberal candidates will win. And their winning or losing in the next elections will not depend to the fate of the issue and is not in any way related to Imelda Marcos conviction. The author is just assuming too much. Poor analysis, poor comparison and poor conclusions.

    1. “long overdue” Why didn’t your hero Noynoy put a lid on it? Oh yeah I forgot: 1) He is lazy 2) he is useless. Yeah that would add to your ” long overdue”. Duterte will be accepting your gratitude now.

      1. That reminds me, both mommy and son ruled in fear and hatred over their perceived enemies.

        We all know that Cory ruled in fear and hatred of Marcos, which caused the ‘long overdue’ conviction and the Yellows never admit it.

        Noynoy also ruled in fear and hatred of Arroyo, not to mention the fact that she and many of her government officials from Generals to Secretaries to Chief Justice were imprisoned, their reputations and names destroyed or forced into taking their lives because they were not given due process and withstood a 24/7 media barrage by these same organizations, and many of them were still vindicated because after 6 years, there hardly was hard evidence from Daang Matuwid.

        It gives me the conclusion: every Yellowtard/leftist shitposting are filled with emotional appeal, fuel with fear and hatred.

      2. Gogs,

        It is not that Aquinos are lazy or anything. That should be proof the Aquinos did not meddle anything on the court’s jurisdiction to fasttrack its decision and just allowed the latter to do its job in a glacial pace. Moreover, Marcoses employed so many delaying tactics to delay their conviction. Hence, the result of long overdue.

        1. Fasttrack??? Marcos family left 1986. 32 years and ( 2 terms of Aquinos as president a combined 12 years ) and zero Imelda convictions and you are worried about fasttrack?? Noynoy was lazy. In 50 years of living and decades of public “service” his own campaign had nothing to say about his work. Couldn’t Aquino government hire competent lawyers to cut through delaying tactics?? Well I forgot Aquinos known for laziness and vindictiveness and credit grabbing and not competency.

        2. It is not the President’s job. And don’t blame Aquino for this. There were also other 3 Presidents, why don’t you mention them also and the victims of martial law who are also after the truth?

          The court is the one who decide the case, even if how many brilliant lawyers the government have, the court has to follow its procedure and its rules. Each opposing side has to follow the court’s snail pace justice. That is the truth in the Philippines. Those who have the money can delay a verdict just like the Marcoses.

        3. 1) It was Aquino who kept telling Corona to resign and he was so interested in his hearing and took credit for his ouster.
          2) Aquino blamed everything and everybody during his 6 year term. He mentioned Gloria in every SONA.
          3) Aquino told his attack dogs to only focus on opposition senators for DAP. How weird that his BFF Abad was the architect of DAP .
          So your beloved president known as Boy Sisi can blame everybody but we can’t blame him and his mom for never putting the cuffs on Imelda??? Your love is misplaced. Duterte will accept your gratitude now.

        4. This issue is not about Aquino, get over it. And Chief Justice Corona was not sentenced by the court under the Supreme Court so it is poor comparison.

          And Duterte has nothing to do with Imelda’s conviction. It was just coincidental. The way you focus too much on Noynoy Aquino on this issue proves how special he is in your life. He broke your heart and you are not able to overcome the obstacle even today. LOL

        5. EXEMPLARY POLITICAL ANALYSIS !!! Now let me roll your sleeves and ask this investigative question … CHECK THEIR BACK ACCOUNTS WHERE THE MONEY IS FUNNELED TO FROM ?

          IS THAT DIFFICULT? Or, you peeps would rather stick to political squabbles that never gives an answer.

        6. @Aquino Citizen:

          This issue is not about Aquino, get over it. And Chief Justice Corona was not sentenced by the court under the Supreme Court so it is poor comparison.

          And Duterte has nothing to do with Imelda’s conviction. It was just coincidental. The way you focus too much on Noynoy Aquino on this issue proves how special he is in your life. He broke your heart and you are not able to overcome the obstacle even today. LOL

          It IS always about Aquino since he constantly blaming everything on Marcos per se. You simply forget the fact that Cory ruled in fear and hatred over Marcos that she doesn’t want to do anything about it. And Corona was impeached with Noynoy pulling the strings; look, most of the prosecution panel are full of politicians. You love to straw grasp things.

          And who says that Duterte had nothing to do with Imelda’s conviction? And the way you focus too much on tainted surnames as your perceived enemies proves how they are special in your life. Too bad you exposed yourself being a Yellow cuck even today. KEK

        7. Gogs,

          It is not that Aquinos are lazy or anything. That should be proof the Aquinos did not meddle anything on the court’s jurisdiction to fasttrack its decision and just allowed the latter to do its job in a glacial pace. Moreover, Marcoses employed so many delaying tactics to delay their conviction. Hence, the result of long overdue.

          They are, though. FM from Hawaii keeps on sending emissaries with one message in hand: he’s ready to return to the Philippines to face the accusations in the courts. If anything, Cory is the one who employed these “delaying tactics” because she ruled in fear and hatred of Marcos. BTW, knowing someone like you, you would do the same thing.

    2. This conviction is long overdue. Talking about Imelda Marcos, this corrupt old woman should have been jailed already for a long time now together with her husband if not for the latter’s demise. As great as Lee Kwan Yew stated in his own observation to the Marcoses “only in the Philippines could a leader like Ferdinand Marcos, who pillaged his country for over 20 years, be considered for a national burial. Insignificant amount of the loot have been recovered, yet his wife and children were allowed to return and engage in politics”. This only shows how thick-faced these Marcoses are who refused and still continually refuse to recognize their own sins. And today still wanted to have an uninterrupted power in politics by running endlessly. Please somebody make them stop!

      Gotta back up Gogs on the “long overdue” stuff. It’s also Cory and Noynoy’s fault as well. It’s really odd that you only solely believe in LKY’s opinion while you’re totally approving the Aquinos and their own pillaging of this country for over 30 years. It’s people like you should be stopped because you have nothing offered to the table but incessant whining.

      21 years that Marcos ruled the Philippines, the country had seen enough. In the 1960s when Marcos took over the presidency from his predecessor, it was a highly developed country already next to Japan. At the end of Marcos term, Philippines was 3rd world bankrupt country. Yeah, it summarizes what Lee Kwan Yew stated above why the Philippines is poor when Marcos left office. And now, his family is still seeking power in national seat. Shame on them. They have skin thicker than any other animals in the world combined. They are like Gloria Arroyo and her family who did not change anything in the Philippines for her 9.5 years in office and still keep on trying to stay in power forever. That’s just prove they don’t know what integrity means is. While Aquinos’ presidency only had 12 years combined, Marcos and Arroyo had a whopping 30.5 years in office. Not to mention during Marcos dictatorship’s time, he controlled the government: the executive, legislative and judiciary; the big businesses; the media; and the AFP and yet Philippines lagged behind into 3rd world poor country unlike Singapore. So what Lee Kwan Yew stated above summarizes why the Philippines was 3rd world when Marcos left office because of his corruption and incompetence and bad governance.

      This is a half-truth. And a highly exaggerated one. Only EMO-induced idiots would love to solely blame on one tainted surname rather than digging something deeper, talk about being lazy. After 1986, the Philippines becomes a 3rd world bankrupt country because of the post-Marcos presidents. The 1987 Constitution provided nothing but its non-progressive policies as it allows a very flawed government AND a very flawed economic system. You loved to whine about Arroyo and her family about 9.5 years that they never change anything and the assumption that they want to stay in power forever means that you are indeed easily manipulated by the biased mainstream media w/o any of critical thinking. It’s also funny that you measured years of two Aquino presidencies with your hated last names yet you love to tolerate the Aquinos that they ruled over Filipino society for over a CENTURY! And you love to overrate how Marcos controlled everything while you tolerated how Noynoy did the same thing. And you’re also clueless about the media: today, it’s the Yellows have the loudest speech and has the most media mileage. Reality-check: it was the Aquino-Cojuangco clan and their cronies made the Philippines a 3rd world by their own corruptions, incompetence and their own bad governance, which is a thousand times worse. You didn’t even explain how much Cory was an inefficient leader and so does her son; you can’t even explain how massive corruption was during those 30 years and how incompetent they were. One reply and you’re proving my point: another anti-Marcos whinefest with biased media bullshit as source. Shame on people like you, son.

      The incoming elections where liberal party might lose is a non sequitur because it is just an assumption by the product of the author’s imagination. Just like how this website assumed the “game over for rappler” and yet rappler is still standing today and giving 24/7 news non-stop day in & out for many months already since the SEC filed a complaint against rappler. The complaint was eventually dismissed by the court.

      For sure, liberal party candidates are not exclusive to national seats for Senators only. They also have Congressmen, Mayors and Councilors which the author failed to mention them in his article that will somehow be winning in elections next year. Though numbers might not be determined but sure some liberal candidates will win. And their winning or losing in the next elections will not depend to the fate of the issue and is not in any way related to Imelda Marcos conviction. The author is just assuming too much. Poor analysis, poor comparison and poor conclusions.

      In case you don’t notice, you’re also assuming too much. With the kind of political landscape that we are currently having, the Liberal Party MIGHT totally lose this coming election. And speaking of Rappler, you failed the “So What Test.” They’re still operational, but still a joke; not to mention the fact that they’re becoming the Philippines’ equivalent to the New York Times and do you know what they have in common: pandering to political groups. You try to connect the dots but I doubt it since you’re totally lazy.

      And you’re missing the point: the senators are much higher compared to local officials since they have the most attention and the most media coverage. Knowing the LP and their machinations, and with their Yellow Media behind their backs, the Imelda Marcos conviction is MOST LIKELY their backbone for next year’s elections yet the conviction itself can be reversed by the SC. And please, Yellowtard analysis, comparisons, and conclusions are always poor in the first place. So does your long post. Period.

      1. Krim asshole,

        You are too stupid! Whenever I criticized your presidents Marcos and Arroyo, you immediately compare them to Aquino. Assuming that Aquino is corrupt, comparing one mistake to another does not make it right. I laugh so hard. That is so basic logic. Put that in your fucking small brain! However, Krim asshole has to do that dumb thing because for him it is the right thing to do to cover up the corruption and incompetence of his presidents and to trump the argument of his enemies, that is the only way for survival.

        Krim has to use the polarized notion of black and white politics that if you are not with me, then you are against me without looking for other options. Krim is a victim of his own delusional lazy thinking paranoia. Krim, you are such an asshole and fucking retard. Your brain is so fucked up that no amount of rehab/repair will fix that. Get lost, dude!

        P.S: stick to one username because even how many times you change your name, I can still sense your own brand of stupidity here.

        1. DUDE !!! STOP QUARRELING OVER POLITICAL ANALYSIS !!! GET OVER IT !!! Unless you peeps are 65 years old !!!

          There are more important topics to be hashed out than Politics that can affect the lives of Filipinos like for instance why kill drug dealers instead of carting them to re-education/torture camp and kindly inquire where the drugs are coming from.

          How in the world these destitute homeless squatters get hold of millions of drugs? ONCE THESE ARE ANSWERED IT WILL LEAD YOU TO PROTECTING POLITICIANS AND PMAyers AND U.P. GRADUATES …. then … only then … YOU CAN CHANGE PHILIPPINE POLITICS …

          CHANGING POLITICS FROM THE TOP never corrected what is wrong with Filipinos from beginning of time …. NOW, THINK OUTSIDE OF THE CYLINDER … TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN ….

        2. @Asshole Citizen:

          Krim asshole,

          You are too stupid! Whenever I criticized your presidents Marcos and Arroyo, you immediately compare them to Aquino. Assuming that Aquino is corrupt, comparing one mistake to another does not make it right. I laugh so hard. That is so basic logic. Put that in your fucking small brain! However, Krim asshole has to do that dumb thing because for him it is the right thing to do to cover up the corruption and incompetence of his presidents and to trump the argument of his enemies, that is the only way for survival.

          Krim has to use the polarized notion of black and white politics that if you are not with me, then you are against me without looking for other options. Krim is a victim of his own delusional lazy thinking paranoia. Krim, you are such an asshole and fucking retard. Your brain is so fucked up that no amount of rehab/repair will fix that. Get lost, dude!

          P.S: stick to one username because even how many times you change your name, I can still sense your own brand of stupidity here.

          Whoops, someone is TRIGGERED around here.

          Just because I’m not one-sided and biased as you are doesn’t mean I’m stupid. Simple-mindedness and mainstream media clinging is utter stupidity. And please, what you’re doing is not actual criticism but emotionally-driven rage, senseless hatred and excessive vitriol. You love to overrate the corruption and incompetence of these two tainted surnames because of what the media tells you and never included the Aquinos since they were treated as ‘heroes’ that the media tells you. What’s really interesting is that you wanted to stray them off because you think that they can never do wrong and they’re not corrupt, which is, you fell to a lie. To a media creation.

          Nope, Asshole Citizen has his own brand of black and white politics which he loves to spit on tainted surnames while uplifting the Aquinos as ‘incorruptible’ and ‘heroes’. And you expose your own paranoia and lazy thinking because nobody is gonna believe his own Yellow Propaganda. So he resorts to only labels and insults, which is a leftist/Yellowtard thing to do. So if someone should get lost, it’s you.

          P.S. What you’re asking is a proof that you only care about NAMES rather than IDEAS, which is more important. And names always tell PEOPLE and as far a I know, only small minds discuss people. It’s just I have a better perspective of things rather than you will ever be.

  11. Roberto Tiglao of The Manila Times latest brilliant and well-researched article, “Colossal propaganda lies over Sandiganbayan’s Imelda decision”, is an interesting read:

    https://www.manilatimes.net/colossal-propaganda-lies-over-sandiganbayans-imelda-decision/471060/

    “The Sandiganbayan argument is absurd. There was no law passed that implemented the 1973 Constitution’s Section 8 provision that banned a Cabinet member from “participating in the management of any business.”

    “Law doesn’t exist

    “In short, Imelda has been convicted by the Sandiganbayan on a law that doesn’t exist.

    “Basta! the Sandiganbayan justices seem to be saying. Imelda is guilty of a 1960 law “in relation” to that provision in the 1973 Constitution.

    “It just boggles the mind. That provision in the 1973 Constitution, which imposes a ban on a Cabinet member “participating in the management of any business” was deleted in the 1987 Constitution.

    “How in the world could Imelda be convicted in 2018 for charges filed in 1991 to 1993, for alleged crimes committed from 1968 to 1970 (when the foundations were organized) based on a provision in the 1973 Constitution, that was deleted in the present 1987 Constitution that is the fundamental law of the land? Note that the 1960 Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act has a 10-year prescription period.

    “What is so suspicious is why the Sandiganbayan decision did not address at all this obviously significant argument against the charges against Imelda, which was one of the most important defenses her lawyers brought up.

    “In my faith in people, I give the Sandiganbayan justices a huge benefit of the doubt though. The justice who wrote the decision, Maryann Corpus-Mañalac was 20 years old, the associate justice Maria Theresa Mendoza-Arcega, 21, and the 5th Branch chair Rafael Lagos was 32 in 1986 when the Yellow Cult that had absolute control of media intensified its propaganda to demonize the Marcoses.

    “Were the justices convinced in the recesses of their minds since three decades ago that Imelda was a plunderer, and merely strived to find what they thought was a technicality to put her in jail? Indeed, I found it strange that the decision had to note that for conviction, “moral certainty only is required.”

    “Such is the power of media control.”

    (The decision is downloadable at the Sandiganbayan website.)

    1. WoW! TIGLAO IS GOOD IN LAW … GOOD ANALYSIS now let us hear from Tiglao why small time drug dealers are killed and Tiglao remained silent why small time drug dealers are killed instead of torturing them to tell the torturers who their suppliers are and the suppliers will be tortured so they rat out who their suppliers are and so on …

      IS THAT DIFFICULT TO ANALYZE? Or, Tiglao is just addicted to POLITICS OF LAW which I found Filipinos are just addicted to.

      1. POLITICAL ANALYSIS IS EASY … knowing who the suppliers of drugs is DIFFICULT. Why is that?

        DOES POLITICAL ANALYSIS SOLVE DRUG PROBLEM AND KILLINGS?

  12. I LIKE MARCOS and WHY !!!
    1. Marcos was alleged to have plundered the Philippines and got away with it …
    2. He was charged never proven …
    3. He got to keep the alleged loot to maintain the lifestyle of Imelda Marcos & her ilk …
    4. With the help of ding-dong Filipinos graduate from U.P. they failed to trace Imelda Marcos money where it came from: What country, what bank account, how much was funneled monthly, how much her current balance …
    5. Marcos was able to protect his cronies three of the four became senators and one of them became president and the rest of the cronies lived happily ever after abroad living off and supported by alleged Filipino taxpayers money …
    6. With the brilliance of U.P. Graduate Marcos he allegedly stashed his loot in Switzerland…Switzerland is mum about his numbered bank account beyond the reach of Philippine Government …

    See? IF YOU PEOPLE WANTED TO STEAL MONEY YOU MUST BE GRADUATE FROM UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES … They have a course for it ….

    THAT IS WHY I LIKE FERDINAND MARCOS AND HIS CRIME FAMILY IS THEY DO NOT GET CAUGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE BRILLIANT FAMILY.

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