It’s time Filipinos pause, step back, take stock, and ask: What is really going on here? If one would attempt to answer that question using the common frame of mind with which Filipinos have coocooned themselves within, the responses would be unsurprising, quite trite, and peppered with certain key words prevalent in mainstream discourse today:
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The above constitute, perhaps, at least 80 percent of fodder used in the content fired by mainstream media into the screens of its hapless Filipino audience. They attract eyeballs, ellicit chatter, and their advertisers and under-the-table patrons go off laughing all the way to the bank. That’s just the private sector media business at work. Just business.
The challenge, then, is to step further back and ask: What have Filipinos really achieved over the last 30 years since democracy was “restored” following the 1986 people power “revolution”?
The default narrative overwhelmingly revolves around negation of negatives: expose corruption, recover ill-gotten wealth, correct injustice, reduce poverty. Imagine, for a minute a development scale ranging from -1 (most underdeveloped) to +1 (fully-developed). Then let’s suppose (by invoking a bigger stretch of our imagination), for argument’s sake, that all of the above purported achievements actually did materialise over those several decades. These achievements will only have served to raise the Philippines’ level of development from -1 to 0; i.e. corruption is eliminated, all stolen moneys have been clawed back, all is just and fair, and poverty had been scaled back.
The Philippines, in this thought experiement, having achieved those promises of the EDSA “people power” narrative will only have become just another society that meets the minimum requirements for common decency.
That kind of latching on to mediocre aspirations — to simply be a “decent” society — was not at all the winning attitude applied by countries like Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, and, recently, Vietnam to their development efforts that catapulted them to the stratospheric star status Filipinos can only wistfully admire today. Columnist Peter Wallace articulates the relative mediocrity of the Philippines’ aspirations in this context in his latest Inquirer piece which cites the comparatively stellar achievements of once war-torn and still authoritarian Vietnam…
[…] Vietnam, like China, has been clear-minded about the direction it must take. Perhaps most important has been a focus on education. Vietnamese 15-year-olds do as well in math and sciences as their German peers. Vietnam spends more on schools than most countries at a similar level of development, and focuses on the basics: boosting enrollment and training teachers. The investment is pivotal to making the most of trade opportunities. Factories may be more automated, but the machines still need operators. Workers must be literate, numerate and able to handle complex instructions. Vietnam is producing the right skills. Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia lag behind, despite being wealthier.
“But Vietnam’s past quarter-century means that it has a decent chance of prevailing. It is at last starting on SOE reform. It is negotiating trade deals in Asia and with Europe. And it is drafting plans to increase its domestic share of manufacturing without scaring off foreigners. Vietnam is a model for countries trying to get a foot on the development ladder. With luck, it will also become a model for those trying to climb up it.”
The message to the Philippine government out of this is that the slow, cautious reforms haven’t worked. Fast, dramatic change is what’s needed. President Duterte has promised it, but can he overcome the entrenched bureaucracy? Government underspending in the past few years, for instance, has been attributed to bureaucratic inefficiencies. It’s time to cut the red tape and ensure more efficient spending of government funds, especially those allotted for infrastructure projects.
The Vietnam profile, above, highlights a focus not just on uplifting itself from -1 to 0. Vietnam’s goal is to go past zero and go for 1. In stark contrast, the Philippines is stuck on a loser aspiration to merely get to zero. And, by all accounts, it seems to be failing at attaining even that mediocre goal.
We see it in the “issues” that even the most intelligent, most well-connected, most influential Filipinos busy themselves with today — the blowing out of proportion of human collateral damage in a national “war on drugs”, the “immorality” in the private life of a Philippine Senator, the supposed decline of “human rights” as a priority in Philippine governance, and all the shrill outpouring of “outrage” over some imagined fallout arising from the current administration choosing to do things a different way.
Now, finally, step back to as high a vantage point as you can and see now how all that fills the Philippine national “debate” pales when one regards the things prioritised by the truly emerging East Asian powers such as Vietnam. In that context Filipinos come across as quite pathetic. There is nothing in the topics that occupy the meagre brain space of the national discourse that contributes to or alines with an aspiration to be an excellent nation by absolute standards. Nothing.
benign0 is the Webmaster of GetRealPhilippines.com.
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what we achieved after edsa1, the philippines became a drug factory. to resolve this, people power. take out all remaining known yellow tards derailing duterte’s dream for a total change for the philippines to be a great nation again. see what’s happening in the senate. only people power is the solution.
Was it the late Teddy Benigno who said the drive found in other Southeast Asian countries was, “to succeed, to catch up with the West”?
It looks like, in contrast, Filipinos assumed that they were already there.
Nooo … Filipinos are way ahead of the West. Best country in the world. Plus they invented the fluorescent light and the moon buggy. Ask anyone.
And we have Manny Pacquiao! Jessica Sanchez! Charice! We have world-class boxers, singers, and actors!
Pinoy Pride! Basta Pinoy da Best! 😀
dont forget the guy who made the armalite and the other guy who turned water into car fuel.
…you forgot the inventor of the traffic light and that Hitler is the son of Jose Rizal. Holy shit!
Definitely the 1986 People Power narrative should be junked. But the methods the yellows used to create that narrative and sustain it are worth studying. The yellows have one skill: propaganda/spin doctoring. Maybe GRP writers can write a piece on this, it’s like the yellow ecosystem for brainwashing the masses. The ecosystem is made up of:
Example: Ateneo de Manila
How they operate: Since schools, students, and professors are perceived to be neutral, they are used as mouthpieces to promote the yellow agenda. They show up on TV and radio programs as “analysts” or man-on-the-street interviewees, and this is how the yellow media are able to editorialize the news.
2. Survey firms
Examples: SWS, Pulse Asia
How they work: They crank out supposedly independent surveys that are used to project that majority of the Filipinos support the yellow agenda.
3. “Civil society”
Examples: Makati Business Club, Akbayan, Kaya Natin
How they work: They project themselves as independent organizations, but notice they are always toeing the yellow line. They make it seem like they speak for the sectors they represent (i.e. businessmen, farmers, “concerned citizens”), but actually sila-sila lang yan.
4. Foreign interest groups
Examples: US embassy, World Bank, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, foreign media like Time magazine, AFP
How they work: They tap into the colonial mentality of Filipinos who are dazzled by anything “imported” or “international”. (I must say, Pinoys are not as gullible as they used to be. Many no longer take what these “international” groups say as gospel truth.) They also give awards and scholarships to yellow journalists to co-opt them and make them appear more credible.
5. Mainstream media
Examples: ABS-CBN, Inquirer, Rappler (to a lesser extent, also GMA News and Philippine Star)
How they work: Yellow media spinning yellow tales peddled as independent news.
Gloria Arroyo did not take the threat of the yellow propaganda machine seriously and suffered for it. Hope Duterte does not make the same mistake. I know, I know. He doesn’t want to stoop to the level of these idiots who don’t do anything except make noise. But like my lola always said, don’t expect people who play dirty to ever play fair. Throw the dirt right back.
You hit the nail on the head!
Wow, what was it like back in the day? If there’s one word that describes Pinoys, it’s gullible. There’s are at least three Ponzi schemes running in my neighborhood, and all the local idiots are selling their land, their carabao or their kids so they join all the other idiots queuing up have their money stolen.
Quite ironic, really, that a nation of inveterate scammers and schemers can’t recognize when they’re being scammed.
Filipinos are more gullible now than they ever were and it is because of a serious lack of education and the shit on TV that poisons their brain 24/7.
You forget one more Rabid Yellow Minion The ever Hypocrite Catholic Church A Major Player during the EDSA Farce Revolution
The hypocritical Catholic Church, along with the aristocratic legacy of the late Cardinal Jaime Sin, is not forgotten. The country is still suffering from the sins of this late Cardinal.
what did you expect? he is a cardinal sin after all!
Just protect the Marcos apologia. So let Pro-Marcos Loyalists, Denialists and Apologists defend Marcoses.
Martial Law should be forgotten in charms of Luis Araneta’s good looks.
MARCOS PA RIN!
Spoken like a Yellowtard troll. You’re now better than the Martial law crybabies spewing their crap on this site.
Liberty is like those solid and tasty foods or those full-bodied wines which are appropriate for nourishing and strengthening robust constitutions that are used to them, but which overpower, ruin and intoxicate the weak and delicate who are not suited for them.
philippine media has severely dumbed down the new generation…making the young ones gullible…
and who is behind the big media??? it’s the effin oligarchs which are also controlling the government…
damn!!! so with the brand of the duterte administration, hopefully this can be resolved…
please bring back the educational programs in TV. It developed the love for science and learning for me while growing up. Shows like sineskwela mathtinik etc.
Our TV shows nowadays are predominantly shows regarding lust, concubinage and sex. which is very detrimental to our youth.
No wonder Leila de Lima is again embroiled in controversy – this time over her sex video/scandal with her lover/driver. She must have learned to have illicit affairs from watching too much PH garbage media.
Tsk tsk tsk… Leila Dilemma nga naman- to resign or to deny her sex video/affair ? Better resign ASAP before the full video leaks out. The snap shot out in public at least doesn’t show the face yet.
i think i saw that last night on animal planet.
Can you imagine anybody wanting to watch Leila de Lima’s sex video?
Paris Hilton: 80 million views.
Leila de Lima : 3.
marius. need i remind you: mga pinoy. jungle fever, baby! i have seen shares of grainy videos of fully clothed couples merely grinding and it being called “scandals”. 2-second amateur clips of bea alonzo lookalikes or girls wearing the feu uniform being porked… mabenta na sa pinoy. yun pa kaya, a philippine senator!
Spread this shit, friends:
PNoy’s lies: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/02/29/1557975/marcos-wanted-use-force-noy
The truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBf2u451UiI
Media: “Aquino dispelled the “myth” that Marcos held back the military and police so as not to harm civilians at EDSA.”
Marcos (on video): “You disperse the crowd without shooting them.”
The Aquinos brought nothing to the Filipinos; except, thru their propaganda machines in the media, like ABS-CBN, etc…they made themselves, heroes and saints. They are the epitome of Narcissists… who love themselves and love the limelight showered to them.
The Aquinos bought nothing good in our country. They strengthened the Feudal Oligarchs, to protect their Hacienda Luisita. They let their cahoots and followers, raid the National Treasury. In truth, they themselves stole at will, from the National Treasury, thru DAP and PDAF.
They allowed the Chinese Triad Drug Mafia crime syndicate to operate freely in our country. Most of their political followers, became Drug Lords and Drug Traffickers.
Our country in now a NARCO Politics country. It is because of the Aquinos.
EDSA or people’s power is a farce. Aquino brought some, nuns and priests; and some “hakot demonstrators”, from Tarlac. Mostly their tenants and serfs from their Hacienda Luisita. They aligned , themselves, with political opportunists like: Enrile, Honasan, Ramos, etc…the U.S./C.I.A. was behind the coup d’ etat. And the Aquino propaganda machines, were all blaring: “People Power ! People Power !”…
The Aquinos put their faces in our currency. They changed street names; airports; buildings; for themselves.
There is even a movement to make Cory Aquino, a Saint, in the Roman Catholic Church.
This is what the Aquinos brought to our country: FALSEHOOD ! We swallowed their bait, hook , line and sinker…
You’re right. That’s Aquino Fever that no medicine yet to this date have dissolved. FALSEHOOD is a cloak an ordinary tornado can’t lift. Duterte will need a great one to spin it the other way around!
Edsa Revolution 1986. The biggest mistake ever the Filipinos did.
because our people at that time were lead by ignorance. marcos was not convicted. why? marcos sr actions (martial law) is constitutionally legal and he was called a dictator because of it. plus the influence of america is very strong at that time. that’s whaty destroyed our society. look at SG, SK and JP? they are all democratic nations but they mastered discipline.
EDSA 1986 is the biggest mistake and a failure (or sometimes a fiasco).
Martial Law was paradise, a wonderful period.
Just take it as a two-sides-of-the-same-coin approach.
Unfortunately, you’re not even constructive about it.
Neither we do make perosnal attacks nor we are constructive.
We don’t care if these are whether relevant, irrelevant or not.
As expected from a paid Yellow hack.
One, you’re lying because you call this page as a pro-Marcos page. Two, you call anyone who disagree with you being a pro-Marcos propagandandist so you’re making personal attacks. And three, it IS relevant because what you’re doing is a red herring post.
Actually, you’re just SPAMMING on this page with your ridiculous shitposting.
Be it Pro-Marcos Propaganda, Pro-Marcos Loyalists.
Junk, debunk EDSA People Power for perpetual Martial Law to revise history for progress and bring back 1973 Constitution for true pure parliamantary system for propaganda tool.
Martial Law was paradise, a wonderful period.
Funny. Martial law was lifted in 1981 and the 1973 Constitution promotes a free economy, as opposed to the current one that has a flawed government and economic system. And yes, the post-Marcos years are paradise… a paradise of stupidity and mediocrity, that is.
No one is going to take you seriously…
1973 Constitution never had a free market but crony capitalism because of FDI restrictions in both 1973 and 1987 Constitutions.
Any argument will not make it.
Go ahead, Pro-Marcos Loyalist.
kek 1987 Constitution is much worse due to its own form of crony capitalism that totally regressed the country for over 30 years.
Troll harder, trollfag. 😛
So, it would be like this (in alternate timeline perhaps), in defense of the Marcos apologia, Philippines doesn’t deserve to have democracy and freedom; it needs “military” discipline for great “military rule (meaning perpetual Martial Law AKA Operation Everlasting) to junk EDSA People Power of 1986 to demolish EDSA Shrine, it doesn’t need Catholics, it needs atheism to add progress further and censorship/abolition of congress, senate, media and private companies for authoritarian-totalitarian state control of the new government to fully and totally control both public and private aspects of life in the Philippines to have quick progress to eradicate Christianity, Catholicism, Communism and Islam; it needs historical revisionism to add propaganda, as propaganda tool. Filipinos here will be strictly disciplined and feared by strict laws; if they defy it, they would face harsh punishments and disciplinary actions just like that in Nazi Germany of WWII. (not saying North Korea). It needs to have true-and-pure parliamentary system to bring back the old 1973 Constitution without amendments to have unicameral one-party state, like KALIBAPI (Anti America, Anti Japanese, Anti Chinese Pro-Filpino fascist conversative republican nationalism forever).
It doesn’t deserve to have civil rights, human rights, and freedom of the press whatsoever. Only Military rights for surveillance to watch over us.
Under revisionism, the new government will not allow any foreign investors to come in a new repressive country under revisionism; only the new state-controlled military government will control economy whatsoever.
Now you’re borderline insane and ridiculous. Had Marcos stayed in power for a long time and EDSA I never happened, perhaps the Phils. will be like Singapore. You’re just grasping straws and all of your comments are pure trolling.
Reply back and you’re proving that I’m right. 🙂
Nothing but terrorism and extremism which combines trolling.
Don’t say or tell me that Benign0 or me is insane…
If Marcos were to stay in absolute power forever for being not overthrown and EDSA never happened, and Martial Law were still in effect, it would have been like Nazi Germany/Europe if not North Korea (or Cuba), it would have been almost like Egypt.
If the Nazi Germany won WWII and Hitler stayed, global Earth would have quick progression under Nazi.
>citing Rappler as a source
Yep, Yellow troll confirmed. Also, nice on grasping on straws. It totally shows how much of a simpleton you are.
Lies. Do you know that Martial law was lifted in 1981? Are you THAT dumb or you’re just trolling.
If I were you, son, stop this stupidity and set your priorities for once. Putting up Rappler as your source makes you a total joke. 😀
1. McCoy, Alfred W. Policing America’s Empire: The United States, the Philippines, and the Rise of the Surveillance State. Madison and London: The University of Wisconsin Press, 2009.
In the middle chapters of this book, University of Wisconsin history Professor Al McCoy details how Marcos had a direct hand in corrupting our military and enabling the torture of civilians. In “brutalizing” the military and giving them unlimited power, Marcos made it difficult for successive presidents to reign in their violent tendencies. Previously McCoy also proved that Marcos’s record of war heroism was faked.
2. Thompson, Mark R. The Anti-Marcos Struggle: Personalistic Rule and Democratic Transition in the Philippines. New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 1995.
Professor Thompson is the acting head of Political Science at the City University of Hong Kong. This is the book version of his groundbreaking PhD thesis at Yale University, which argues that the Marcos regime was “sultanistic.” Instead of forming a professional political class, Marcos used corruption to strengthen his family and other oligarchs.
3. Anderson, Benedict. “Cacique Democracy in the Philippines: Origins and Dreams.” New Left Review 169, No. 3 (1988): 3-31.
Cornell University’s Benedict Anderson is the fourth most cited social scientist in the world and was the leading commentator on Southeast Asian politics of his generation. This article proves that critics of Marcos are not all “yellowtards,” as Anderson is also very critical of Cory Aquino. In this polemic, Anderson argues that Marcos made himself the warlord of the entire Philippines, turning the military into his own private army.
4. Boyce, James K. The Political Economy of Growth and Impoverishment in the Marcos Era. Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press, 1993.
Boyce is a professor of Economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst and a leading expert in developmental economics. Anybody who claims the economy was better during Marcos’ time should read this book. Boyce argues that Marcos increased inequality and reduced the real wages of Filipino workers and farmers. The net effect: more poverty.
5. Caouette, Dominique. “Constructing and Controlling People’s Power from the Grassroots: Philippine Social Movement Activism in Historical Perspective.” Montreal: University of Montreal: Cerium, 2011.
University of Montreal Political Scientist Dominique Caouette wrote the most comprehensive history of the Communist Party of the Philippines and the NPA. In this article, he shows how Marcos’ repressive policies led to the burgeoning of the NPA. It reminds me of an old joke from decades ago: Marcos was the Communist Party’s number one recruiter. Ngayon, kung maayos talaga nung panahon ni Marcos, bakit sobrang daming NPA noon? (If the situation was really good during the time of Marcos, how come there were so many NPA then?)
Marcos Sr. is dead for more than 30 years. He cannot run for public office , anymore.
Marcos, Sr. is no longer relevant in the Philippine political landscape…
We bring out those, who are still alive. How they stole our taxpayers’ money. How they deceived us, when they were in power !
These are politically relevant issues…let the dead rest in peace…or in hell…or whatever !
Only the specter and ghost of Martial Law remain forever…
Red herring comment. Seems you want to go into the notion by just sticking to the past and never create a HOPE of a FUTURE with no VISION whatsoever.
Bring back the “New Society”, Nutribun, Kadiwa, Magasana99 and Bataan Nuclear Power Plant!
Only take the good and forget the bad.
And still, you’re not making any sense.
Martial Law is past…it had been more than 30 years, since…it is a past history of our country…
Whatever it had brought: good or bad, depends on your political perspectives. Juan Ponce Enrile, the Chief Torturer and Jailer, of Marcos, Sr… during Martial Law, is still alive…
Anybody who was tortured, incarcerated, or suffered during Marcos Sr. Martial Law, has a “Free
Hand” to drag Enrile….torture him also, as he did to his victims, during Martial Law !
No name-calling please.
Since you are a Pro-Marcos Loyalist and revisionist, are you against Communism and Muslim like Larry Gadon.
Since Leloy Claudio of Twitter may have told you like this.
Even if Ferdinand Marcos is long dead whether burial in Libingnan or not, there is still an eternal legacy and shadow of Martial Law forever as you forget about Martial Law as it is golden age, so it’s too long overdue.
Nice ad hominem, Yellow troll. inb4 the admins will DELETE your posts since all of it are spam.
Oh yeah, TROLLS didn’t even try to be objective. They’re just love to gain attention and shitpost this page.
@BongPanda: What makes you think I am a “Pro-Marcos Loyalist and revisionist”?
Absolutely yes, absolutely sure you are. You love Martial Law and Marcos Propagande.
I hope Leloy Claudio would have argument with you, once more.
Nice assumption, son.
Citing a leftist scum like Leloy Claudio makes you lose your credibility. Go figure.
News flash: citing Rappler as a credible source and bringing up a leftist scumbag like Leloy Claudio shows signs of a severe case of autism.
What specifically makes you “absolutely sure”. Tell us please.
Yes, yes, yes. GetRealPhilippines is just a Pro-Marcos website.
Lisandro “Leloy” Claudio may have told you in Twitter like this.
So? Others want conservative discipline than democracy without EDSA revolution, so be it.
Another red herring comment. Nice TROLLING, fam. You’re just proving yourself being ridiculous each and every day.
Looks like all we have here is a mere parrot.
Actually, I saw this in my premonition….
This nefarious fraud named BongPanda is in league with the Yellowtards, the Brother Neros of this nation. His brand of spamming and trolling are rendered as OBSOLETE.
Everyone admits and will admit that you are a true Pro-Marcos Loyalist, Denialist and Apologist, and a Martial Law Lover. Let’s hope that any argument has to be arranged.
I am neither a troll or cyberbully whatsover so neither you nor DIO are.
Leave Leloy Claudio alone, but don’t say that he is retarded.
And you DIO, a true Pro-Marcos Loyalist and denialist,
In some arguments, you and some should have supported neo-Nazis and rightists to bash yellowtards meant for Marcos Apologia. Nothing obsolete or wrong.
Others like me and some are technically neither leftists nor rightists nor centrists whatsoever.
In fact, Leloy Claudio is neither a leftist nor rightist nor centrist whatsoever. So leave him alone.
You and Benign0, and Pro-Marcos Loyalists may have failed to read verified sources of Martial Law saying that Marcos Era and Martial Law were golden era and EDSA Revolution is a mistake and they have manipulated.
You won’t get anymore relevant elsewhere if something whether constructive or not the comments are.
Just leave me alone and the others who do not want any rift or sensitive to comments that make situations mess up.
Wow, someone is totally triggered. Butthurt, to be precise. You totally losing the argument when you accuse me and benign0 being pro-Marcos loyalist and putting up a leftist, pro-Aquino. scum like Leloy Claudio. And yes, I still consider you as a TROLL because you have nothing to offer on the tabke but to your own brand of hearsay and LOL EVIL Marcos. Jist because someone who had a neutral POV doesn’t mean being a Marcos loyalist or anything.
If you want to be left alone, then why the hell are you here in the first place? Stop playing the victim card and set your priorities for once.
@B3n19n0 a.k.a. BongPanda, the Yellowtard Troll:
Well, here you go again with your TROLLING antics, eh? Here’s something for ya
Nice logical fallacy. Sign of being a Yellowtard Troll. Admit it.
Yes, you are. And yes, Leloy Claudio is retarded. Your point?
Just because someone has a neutral POV doesn’t mean he/she is a pro-Marcos loyalist like you love to accuse anyone who disagrees with you. And nice on bringing up the neo-Nazis and rightist card right there since it’s another red herring post from yours. So yeah, your comments are OBSOLETE in a sense.
In fact, HE IS. He is a member of the group Akbayan, who were close allies with the Aquinos during Noynoy’s presidency. In fact, his fellow members are current senator Risa Hontiveros, Ronald Llamas (former political advisor to Noynoy Aquino), and Walden Bello. Need I say more?
Spoken like a TRUE Yellowtard and a TRUE Aquino apologist. Actually, we prefer to look on BOTH sides of the story and if there are verified sources, we want to make sure that there should be no BIAS whatsoever.
All I want is that Pinoys should have to actually learn objective history. When you, for example, blindly say the Marcos Years were bad and give nothing constructive about it but rejoice the 1987 Constitution and Cory’s efforts like it was a breath of fresh air, its like the same idiots who thought the Spanish finally leaving was a time of grace for the country. Yes only for the likes of Cojuangcos, Aquinos and such to take over and install their political dynasties for centuries on end. Because pinoys are so caught up on extraneous details and forget the proper context in mind of the important events that happened.
Too late, son. You started the fire and you need to face the consequences. This webpage is not for uninformed, immature children.
Marcos Pa Rin Mga Ulol. Moron Pa Rin pa more.
One-liners at kantyaw lang ang alam mo. Siyempre, ganyan talaga ang mga taong EMO: all CRAP and no substance.
Come on hipsters, Marcos Apologia is so beautifully hip for its own good after Marcos is laid to rest thanks to us.
I am not a yellowtard nor macoytard; some of us are neither yellotards nor macoytards; neither I am a communist nor nazi, never was and never will be; we are neither communists nor nazis; we never were and will never be.
Says the actual butthurt hipster who thinks that being a TROLL and a psychopath is a beautiful thing.
Unfortunately, your last statement contradict on everything you’ve said. Nobody is going to take your seriously because you’re an actual TROLL. 🙂
You fake DIO.
What a butthurt trolls.
I hope the gov’t will censor this site!
Nah, you and your impersonating antics, Propaganda Boy a.k.a. BongPanda.
Who is your next victim anyway?
Oooh, a fake BongPanda. Too many anti-Semites on the rise because they fear for return of Neo-Nazism.
Fact: BongPanda AND Propaganda Boy are all the same person who loves to TROLL on this page due to his staunch anti-Marcos rhetoric and such, all for the sake of seeking attention.
Go figure, son.
Whatever yellow trolls and anti-Semites. I hope if Hitler were alive, he will hunt down communists, drug pushers and yellowtards.
Funny. If Hitler is alive, he will let those groups go and being buddies with them. Because they ARE the modern day Nazis along with Antifa and the Left, the SJWs, Black Lives Matter, etc. Go figure.