Will Filipinos be better off letting go of America?

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The recent bungled-journalism-ignited conflagration that almost led to a complete souring (if not severing) of ties between two close long-standing Pacific allies has brought up another piece of the mosaic that makes up the vision of radical change that President Duterte has in mind for his country. It was as if in one fell swoop, President Duterte with a flaming “PI”-expletive-laced outburst could have brought all the many decades of partnership, trust and good will between the US and the Philippines crashing down.

Yes, in theory that’s how easy geopolitics can take a wild turn these days. As they say in this gladiatorial arena, there are no permanent friends, just permanent interests.

Intended or not, one thing is clear from the fallout of the recent circus. Duterte has greater regard for his own monkey-eating avian species than the high-flying American bald eagle, in stark contrast to all his predecessors.  This reminds me of the book by David Platt “Radical: Taking Back Your Faith from the American Dream” whose front cover has a picture of a house turned upside down.

As I mentioned in the past:

Common Sense is simple. What you see typical Filipinos doing – just do the opposite.

And that’s exactly what think-out-of-the-box Duterte is doing. We have seen how the Yellow Cult has all these many decades been following after Americans like a star-struck dog on a colonial-mentality leash. Our new president dares to be different by moving towards cutting the invisible umbilical cord that we as a nation had been surviving on.

Action defines character

As the Creed of Winners states (line 4): action defines character. What you really are deep within will show through what you do. And all that you see in Duterte’s behavior is but a reflection of the object of his allegiance. Duterte proves himself to be a true and bold nationalist, who is the least beholden to our erstwhile Aquiline-nosed colonizers.

Consistent with what Duterte has set in his heart to accomplish under his watch, he had planned from the onset to chart a new course for this country – one that has the training wheels fully detached from our precariously wobbling bicycle. The following outlines his intention back when he just took office:

Duterte to chart his own course on foreign policy, won’t rely on US – May 31, 2016

“I will be charting a course on its own and will not be dependent on the United States,” Mr. Duterte told a news conference after presenting his Cabinet.

His comments came hours after Chinese President Xi Jinping said that Beijing wants to deepen relations with Manila under the new Duterte administration, as both sides seek to reset bilateral ties strained by rising tensions over conflicting claims in the South China Sea.

“A friendly, stable and sound China-Philippines relationship is in the fundamental interests of the two countries and their people,” said Mr. Xi in a congratulatory message to Mr. Duterte on Monday after his victory in the May 9 election was officially confirmed.

“We hope the two sides can work together to bring bilateral relations back on a healthy track,” added Mr. Xi, according to a statement published on the website of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Mr. Xi’s congratulatory message noted that the two countries had a long history of friendly exchanges and a deep traditional friendship.

What’s the risk of losing America?

This daring new course could be a huge risk for our disaster-prone country with just token national defense capability that has depended like lazy junkies for so long on the US as an overgrown infant still not fully weaned off of its mother’s milk. In a recent statement, Duterte says he is not a fan of the US, and vowed to steer an independent course and refrain from confronting territorial rival China.

  1. Can the Philippines survive on its own in shark-infested waters?
  2. Will distancing from the US (coming out of America’s protective umbrella) and getting closer to China be a greater advantage for the country?
  3. What do Filipinos have to lose on a future without Uncle Sam?

What’s in it for America and the Philippines anyway?

The biggest fundamental question really is: why do we even have to stick with America? What does America get out of the Philippines, and vice versa:  a mutual defense treaty? – Do you really think Americans will risk their asses to defend Scarborough Shoal should the Chinese proceed to “invade Philippine-claimed territory” by turning it into another one of their artificial islands? We must be dreaming.

America’s hegemony in the Pacific may appear to be a deterrent, but will it actually hold water in a real conflict that requires spilling American blood for Pinoy asses? Ask any American if a perceived stinking shithole like the Philippines is worth saving and you’ll get a frank answer. Remember how the West abandoned Rwanda at the height of their genocide?

On the flip side, what can befriending China lead to? A removal of strain in the Spratlys with the building of new factories and railways across the nation, right? Like for a young man who realizes his next move after carefully studying the pros and cons table of all his prospects for a lifetime partner (maganda – check, mabait – check, matalino – check, mayaman – optional), the choice already appears to be glaringly obvious.

Maybe it’s about time to get trained by our good ol’ Chinese brothers.

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Lotus
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If we lose America, we lose other allies of America as well. It will have a tremendous debilitating effect on our economy, trade and tourism. Your realization on your article is very shallow lacking depth and research. Dig deeper and you will see the biggest underlying picture. China, as of now, is trying to find ways how to prevent their hollow economy from falling because of their rising debts used in fast-tracking and expanding economy without having good investment in return. It will just take few years before their economy will collapse (if still not manage properly) and so it… Read more »
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America is in trillion U.S. dollar in debt to China and other countries. It’s debt is increasing , every second…its budget deficit is huge …the State of California is bankrupt…the City of Detroit, Michigan is bankrupt. The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is bankrupt..the U.S., has a huge trade deficit !

Greg
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This is correct. The U.S. has $19.5 trillion dollars of debt, and the bloated country has to borrow and print just to pay its $246 billion per year interest payment on the debt. If the U.S. doesn’t print and borrow, it cannot even make its debt interest payment, and the country collapses. The economy and country are running on fumes. The U.S. dollar is also the world reserve currency, so the country has had everything rigged in its favor. Russia and China have already created non-U.S. dollar trade agreements. The U.S. is going down the drain and will never recover;… Read more »
Aphetsky Lasa
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Which allies of America are we going to lose if the Philippines partners with China? Name them, please.

David
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I don’t have to name more than one: the United States. The world already knows how disbanded the Filipinos are, of how ungrateful they are towards the United States for getting them out of tight situations for decades, and how good they are at feigning subservience and loyalty to anyone who offers them the most money. These examples alone make the international community question the integrity and loyalty of the Filipino people. If you need more examples, I can give them to you; but those examples above are probably the reasons why the United States, since the end of World… Read more »
BABYLON AND ON...
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@ David, the Philippines is a laughingstock that no one gives a shit about. Duterte is getting some International press coverage for all the wrong reasons ALA Miriam Santiago @ the Corona trial. They are both seen as BUFFOONS by leaders abroad and even though the ‘Man on the streets’ opinion doesn’t matter worth a fiddler’s fart, they know a loud mouthe idiot when they see one, and laugh at them.Duterte has done nothing so far but shoot his mouth off to get attention and kill a few thousand low-life druggies. Hardly anything to brag about….and everyone outside the Failippines… Read more »
David
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@BABYLON AND ON. I agree with you. Duterte is gambling with his people’s lives for reasons, and potential dangers, that are unbeknownst to all of us. For all we know he could be making secret deals with the MILF to take over the entire country. He is, after all, have hobnobbed with this group–and God knows who else–in the past, and probably had helped him keep Davao under control. Then Duterte and his secret groups used that record to win his people’s support to win the presidency and fight corruption. Filipinos are so gullible; they’re always looking for an “action… Read more »
222Hyden007Toro999999.999
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222Hyden007Toro999999.999
The days of the Philippines , being the American running dog, is past. Aquino was the Ass Wiper of the Americans. Because the Aquinos owe their power to the Americans. We can have an independent foreign policy. Switzerland, Sweden, etc.. have independent foreign policies. We can be a friend of all nations Treating each other , on equal basis. It was inculcated in our mindsets; that we cannot survive, without the American aid and protection. We have to stand on our own, and pursue whatever is good for our country. America will not involve itself, if, it does not advance… Read more »
gnogid
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I say, dream on!

333Toro007Hyden9999.999
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333Toro007Hyden9999.999

I say: Stand up on your own !

Forte
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Do you have the resources and skills to do that? I mean, the Japanese are handling the Philippines’ space program.

Face it. The country is too neck deep into playing servant boy to its masters and only a complete makeover of the whole nation would change that, unlikely that may be.

a yellow tard
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is that noynoy wearing yellow-green shirt? video at 3:56 min/sec. with davao bombing mastermind?

Forte
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Say what you will about the US, but it treats its allies better than say China and Russia which sees its affiliates as business ventures at best and annexed states in all but name at worst. The Philippines is too far gone into embracing Western (American) values and lifestyles to ever feel comfortable about a proposed China marriage. The concepts and principles of Confucianism, for one, remains alien to the population outside Chinese Flips who choose to keep their home philosophy. Let’s not even get into Socialism which Filipinos love to hate when don’t even have a real clue of… Read more »
222Toro007Hyden9999.999
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222Toro007Hyden9999.999

I don’t think so…the U.S. tried to remove the President of Turkey…its version of “people’s power” failed.

The U.S. will treat its allies, if it promotes its own interests…
Saddam Hussein of Iraq was an American ally. It provided help in its war with Iran…until it invaded Kuwait…Noriega was a C.I.A. informant, until , he became too close with the late Venezuela’s President:Hugo Chaves…then, Noriega was demonized and removed…by U.S. invasion…

Being neutral, will be better for us…we work for our own interests… !

Tell It Like It Is.....
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Tell It Like It Is.....

The Kuwaiti invasion was a trap set up to Hussein (The USA OK’d the invasion and then turned on Hussein),U C the USA needed a boogeyman to promote its Zionist masters
‘Greater Israel:From the Nile to the Euphrates’ agenda, and Hussein got the mark on his back.The entire affairs going on in the Middle-East is to destabilize the entire region to make it easy for Israel to slowly control the entire area.Syria and Iran are the only ones left….and Russia ,not wanting to lose its Mediteraenean seaport, will not allow it.

Pallacertus
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Can people keep themselves from sounding like they’ve read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion one too many times?

Forte
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In order for the Philippines to be neutral, it must exhibit political, economical and military clout on its own. All of these it couldn’t even pretend it has even when granted its “Independence.” Its location is vital for the US as a buffer towards encroaching China. That alone is enough for them whereas the Philippines is essentially enslaved to the Yanks because who else provides them with military tech? We don’t develop our own weapons, that’s for sure. The history of the country also impedes the chances of true neutrality. Several decades under the “patronship” of superpowers and empires, the… Read more »
WR
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South Korea was able to forge it’s own economic program (independent from the Washington Consensus) without being too overtly hostile against the United States. They played the balancing act just right.

Forte
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South Korea is even more dependent on the US with routine joint exercises that irks the North to no end.

And South Korean politicians have more political finesse and tact in dealing with diplomacy compared to the Philippines’ bark but no bite style.

Aeta
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South Korea would have been a part of North Korea, soon after the Korean War, had it not been for the ongoing U.S. military presence at the demilitarized zone. South Korea is just a good example of why the U.S. bases should have never left Philippine soil in the first place. The American bases provided political and, to some degree, economic stability in this country than the Yellow Party leadership and Chinese influence in the last 30 years.

Tell It Like It Is.....
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Tell It Like It Is.....
LOL, THE QUESTION SHOULD READ:”Do Filipino’s think the USA will let the Philippines go?”, that is really more like it. It could even be a pretty safe bet that IF Duterte were to reneg on all of the treaties signed with the USA and turn to China or Russia to provide military/economic support that Duterte would be assasinated or a full scale civil war would erupt with ‘REBELS and Terrorists’ paid by GUESS WHO. The amazing thing is that someone here at GRP actually thinks the Philippines is sovereign country capable of telling the USA that it is not going… Read more »
T
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This is something i agree on with you. What you painted IS a very likely scenario.

Forte
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This is true. They lost Vietnam. They don’t want to completely lose ground in Southeast Asia.

Pallacertus
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This is not the time or place for a crackpot doomsday scenario.

(What I will say is this: if the Philippines under this administration is reaching out to China and Russia — why Russia??? — for reasons other than the pressing issue that is the South China Sea… well, it’s a bad idea to say the least.)

888Hyden007Toro9444.99
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888Hyden007Toro9444.99

The U.S. lost Cuba…it lost Iran, thru the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. They took the U.S. Embassy, hostages the Embassy people, for many days. The Ayatollah Komenei was powerful…

The U.S. cannot do anything. It did a failed rescue operation.

The U..S. cannot do anything on the Military Junta in Myanmar (Burma)…

They can go home, if they keep meddling in Philippine affairs !

Pepe Le Meuz
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The USA is back in full Diplomatic relations w/Cuba and the only countries that the USA ever ‘lose’s’ ties with are the ones backed by the former USSR or the Russian Federation, a current case in point :SYRIA. The USA was willing to go to war for over 15 years in Vietnam in order to not lose control of the region and after leaving in 1975,25 years later in 2000, full diplomatic relations and robust trade are once again happening between the USA and Vietnam. Vietnam actually begged the USA to bring their ‘Yankee Dollars’ back after the fall of… Read more »
Tell It Like It Is.....
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Tell It Like It Is.....
OH and while I am at it, How about if the USA in the interest of revenge for daring to forego the aforementioned treaties/agreements tells the Philippines OFW’s to pack uo their shit and get the fuck out? HOW ABOUT 10% of the Philippines economy, the most important part of the Philippines economy, going up in smoke in a a matter of minutes? The author of this article is kidding himself if he thinks the Philippines can get away from the USA or that the Philippines doesn’t NEED the USA. OH and Just wait until hurricane season comes along in… Read more »
888Hyden007Toro9999.99
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888Hyden007Toro9999.99

Most of the Filipino OFWs are in the Middle East and Hong Kong, China…most of those working in the U.S. have green cards.Some are TNTs…

The U.S. cannot even deport its more than eleven (11) millions , illegal aliens, hiding in its sanctuary cities…how can it order the Filipino OFWs to pack up, and go home…

Pepe Le Meuz
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@ HT, the USA COULD do it in a heartbeat. Just like they locked all Japanese USA citizens in ‘work camps’ during WWII, don’t kid yourself. The USA can get really NASTY when it wants to, it just doesn’t do a lot of things it could do.For example: in 1972,during the torrential Christmas bombings of Hanoi,NV(to get the NVA back to the Paris,France negotiating table…and it worked too.)it was discussed whether or not to bomb Hanoi’s Hydro-electric power stations and plunge the entire city and most of the country into darkness, it was NOT done BUT it EASILY COULD HAVE… Read more »
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1212Hyden007Toro9999.999
@Pepe Le Metz: The U.S. was at war with the Japanese Imperialists. They bombed Pearl Harbor… We are not at war with the U.S…. Drugs are flowing at the U.S. MEXICAN borders… Drug Traffickers, come and go in the borders…The U.S. can only do a little thing… There are more than eleven (11) million illegal aliens, in the U.S. …OBAMA provided them with sanctuary cities. Do I believe that the U.S. will put all Filipinos in the U.S., in cattle cars, like the German Nazis did to the Jews and deport them ? Stop kidding us…it is already the Age… Read more »
Greg
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The U.S. locked up more than just Japanese.

orx
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Nobody neeeds that US of A… except their bribed vassal states. Run Philippines while you still can. Nobody needs to be a colony. The future is in Asia/Russia. USA only exports violence, inferior military hardware, chaos, fraud and warfare. It has total debt of 350 Trillion dollars included derivative debt…. it is a Ponzi Scheme….. and by the way, most (US) “Americans” do not even like Filipinos and make fun of them at every opportunity.

gnogid
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I don’t believe a putang ina-laced outburst by Pres. Duterte will lead to a “complete souring of ties between PHL and USA. That is NOT how the world works. That is not how to severe international relations and long-standing affiliation. To make reality the so-called “cutting the invisible umbilical cord” with the US will take more than cuss words and crass attitude. However, If he decides to declare war against the US at the same time have a surrogate country take over her role as our partner would make Duterte’s plan more likely and believable. As it is, such thinking… Read more »
Pallacertus
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So we’ve been always at war with Eastasia, Grim?

Forte
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More like we think we’re Americans living in the wrong continent.

Pallacertus
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That’s not the point.

It pays to have allies, especially someone as powerful as the United States, in our current mess with China. Given our military might (or lack thereof), it can hardly be otherwise.

(Before someone says, “but Russia!” — please, Putin has spoken in favor of China’s territorial claims.)

a yellow tard
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at last the probe on de lima is on the go. season2 is coming…the search for who is the pablo escobar of the philippine drug cartel. isn’t that nice we see the change.

oh by the way, did you guys heard relatives of ex agri sec alcala been arrested in a buy bust operation?

a yellow tard
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….stay on the issues guys, these yellowtards driving you away from the topic..hehe

Forte
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Honest to goodness question: What does Russia have to offer that would benefit the Philippines and vice versa beyond ideological meshing? I really wanna know.

Pallacertus
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Possible ideological meshing.

If Duterte’s gonna learn anything from Putin, it’s how to be a master kleptocrat with good publicity (at least among your own countrymen).

7777Hyden007Toro7777.999
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7777Hyden007Toro7777.999

Look at Iran….it can offer good technology ! Same as the U.S. can do…Russia is more advanced in technology in some Scientific and Technological field !

Putin is not an ideologue…he is a pragmatist !

d_forsaken
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The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends. A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.

a yellow tard
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pilipinos worldwide should do the same rise up against drugs, corruptions, communism, and terrorism for our country to prosper.

a yellow tard
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….retrived all money stolen through dap, etc and sequester properties acquired through illegal means. and search for the missing a.luna loot that belongs to the people. it’s still there somewhere hidden.

555Toro007Hyden8888.999
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555Toro007Hyden8888.999

The Gen. A. Luna loot is somewhere buried in the Hacienda Luisita, Tarlac….gold coins and silver coins…from Mexico ! Maybe worth billions of U.S. dollars now !

Pepe Le Meuz
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and while your at it : How about getting the old HAG, Imelda Marcos to cough up all the loot she openly brags about having?Se Imelda OPENLY BRAG ABOUT IT HERE:

2222Toro007Hyden78987.99
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2222Toro007Hyden78987.99

Pepe Le Meuz:

The Marcoses are not the issue here…the are gone for more than 30 years…

We are dealing with the present…

practical observer
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Filipinos need to wake up to the following realities: 1. Duterte’s “insulting” behavior toward Obama was a lot less offensive compared to Noynoy Aquino insulting the whole Chinese nation by comparing it to Nazi Germany when he gave a speech in Japan. The Nazi metaphor was bad enough, but for Aquino to have made that statement in Japan, a country that once invaded and brutalized China, was far worse than Duterte saying “son of a whore” while responding to a journalist’s question regarding Obama. 2. No matter what Duterte or Yasay do, the other ASEAN countries are not going to… Read more »
Pepe Le Meuz
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The USA could just say to CHINA, when China goes to sell all the $4trillion in USA Bonds in order to crash the USDollar,”Gee, sorry guys,can’t do it…”….THEN WHAT? CHINA and THE USA have a cozy relationship, do not be fooled. The USA corporatocracy has denied USA citizens 40 million jobs and given them to Chinese slaves and that has made Chinese elites MEGA-WEALTHY. Any difficulties you see between the two countries is scripted to fool their populations,who,from time to time, have to have their numbers trimmed. And so the occassional war.

gernacionalismo
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Looks like the current climate between US and RP is turning to be a far cry from the two wolves depicted by FallenAngel’s article a week ago.

This geopolitical scenario is now a dilemma with no bright solution to foresee.

Pepe Le Meuz
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‘Chinese Brothers’? LOL, more like CHINESE MASTERS, China NEVER considers anyone equal to themselves, just like the JOOZ, or even the ‘exceptional’ USA government.

The Chinese do not trust other countries workers and bring their own labor with them when doing any state sanctioned work in another country.

MidwayHaven
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Get Real Philippines article quote:

How receptive would Filipinos be to a return to their country of a sizeable US military force?

Discounting the old-hat noisy rhetoric of self-described “activists” coming from the Philippine Left, I’d put my money on the majority of Filipinos rushing out to meet their former colonial masters with open arms.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com/blog/2011/04/the-americans-are-back-in-subic-bay-and-olongapo-city/

Pallacertus
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So war with Eurasia it is.

(But seriously, was there a reason to piss off an important ally? This site has been swinging between saying Duterte didn’t just swore at Obama and showing off a most odd Pinoy Pride — or is it Duterte Pride?)

Aeta
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Given a choice—that the Chinese-Filipino businesses and Filipino politicians will oppose– the Filipino masses would rather have the Philippines be America’s instead of the Chinese’s puppets. Marcos, and other Philippine presidents before him, was a prime example of America’s puppet, but the lives of the Filipino people were much better than what they have today. The United States was hoping that Cory Aquino would follow in the same footstep in 1986, when it helped seat her in power, but her new cabinet members and newly-appointed senators (Fidel Ramos, Juan Ponce Enrile, Grogorio “Gringo” Honasan, and Richard Gordon) new media conglomerates… Read more »
Pallacertus
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Eastasia? Are we sure it’s Eurasia we’re warring against? Then Eastasia it is!

Jesus Christ, Aeta — so you’ve been always for the Ohio railroad! And after so much shit spewed defending Marcos too!

Aeta
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[Revised] Pallacertus, No, Dumbass. I’m looking at what happened to the Philippines from a micro level about how Filipinos feel towards the United States and China in general, not at the over-imagined level that you and the rest of your fellow conspiracy theory fanatics are trying to depict the obvious, even when it’s not there. I’m not defending Marcos the way you’ve imagined I’m defending Marcos–nor Duterte for that matter. You and the rest of your conspiracy theory buddies are trying shove your megalomaniac versions of the truth down people’s throat, when you should just break it down to the… Read more »
gernacionalismo
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Just to review: It appears that the initial message to see is what transpired when Obama called to congratulate DU30 last May 17 as they briefly discussed the ongoing maritime dispute in the west sea of which Obama advised DU30 to wait for the result of the ruling of the UN Court of Arbitration. DU30 agreed but he informed Obama that if things will not move then he might opt to go bilateral in his dealings. When July 12 came and after the maritime tribunal ruled in favor of the Philippines, the US administration did not say any word even… Read more »
gnogid
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Will letting go off America better for us? No for the following reasons. 1. We are not in a position to ‘let go off her’ because for the most part we are the party that defends on her and not the other way around. 2. Our friendship with the US goes beyond politics and both benefitted with the relationship. We’ve had history with her. It may not be perfect but our beginnings were intertwined with her. In other words, in the emotional context, it’s like divorcing your partner in the waning years of your life. Let go off her and… Read more »
Aeta
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The Philippines can’t afford to let go of America, nor can it replace it with China, nor can go at it alone. Filipinos are not a self-governing people that will set aside their differences in order to live as one nation.

As I’ve always said in previous comments, regardless of how socially sophisticated we Filipinos imagined ourselves to have become, the manner in which we think and live our lives will always be paralleled to the lives of our indigenous ancestors.

gnogid
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The “letting go” part is unclear to me. In fact, I doubt if anyone here can explain and elucidate it clearly.

“Filipinos are not a self-governing people that will set aside their differences in order to live as one nation.”
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I don’t think so. We are self-governing, like other people. And we also have our differences like other people too.

Aeta
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gnogid, “I don’t think so. We are self-governing, like other people. And we also have our differences like other people too.” You are over-analyzing what I said. Perhaps I should have simplified it by saying that we Filipinos are not able to “self-govern” ourselves successfully because we still think and live our lives like what our ancestors did centuries ago. Our ancestors were proud (to the point of arrogance) and selfish tribesmen who will fight with other tribes for petty reasons, instead of setting those differences aside to achieve common goals, like building a community–a nation–that will ward off foreign… Read more »
Aeta
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[Revised] gnogid, “I don’t think so. We are self-governing, like other people. And we also have our differences like other people too.” You are over-analyzing what I said. Perhaps I should have simplified it by saying that we Filipinos are not able to “self-govern” ourselves successfully because we still think and live our lives like what our ancestors did centuries ago. Our ancestors were proud (to the point of arrogance) and selfish tribesmen who will fight with other tribes for petty reasons, instead of setting those differences aside to achieve common goals, like building a community–a nation–that will ward off… Read more »
gnogid
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Let me simplify things for you. The Philippines is like the world. We’re composed of different tribes, dialects, customs, tradition and so many other qualifying characters that tend to pull us apart from each other. That’s what you get from a 7000+ islands brought under one umbrella: the UN, este, the Republic of the P. But unlike the world, we don’t declare war at each other. We don’t destroy one region or officially discriminate one tribe. There are no occupied territories in Luzon, no drone hovering over the Visayas, and no threat of economic embargo in Mindanao. We are united… Read more »
Aeta
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gnogid, Where have you been most of your life? It sure as hell wan’t in the Philippines or among Filipinos. And who said you had to formally declare war to fight with or discriminate on each other? Hell, we Filipinos have always fought with and discriminated on each other for as long as anyone can remember. You keep trying to make excuses why Filipinos can’t get along with one another; yet, you can’t come up with a single factor other the ones I’ve already stated above. Yes, I’m going to remain hopeless about the future of the Philippines and its… Read more »
gnogid
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You remain hopeless because that’s what you are. You have no iota of an idea that will inject positives in your view about the country and the Filipino. Your mind is focus on destruction, criticisms for the heck of it and doubling down on Filipinos because you looked down upon them and have no desire to contribute to anything that will benefit them. For you, they’re not your equal. Fine. I wonder where you started to have that pessimistic view on the Filipino people. Since birth? Anyway, I tried to lighten up the conversation a little bit but you seemed… Read more »
Aeta
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gnogid, Lighten up the conversation a little bit? What is this, the Oprah Winfrey show? We’re not on GRP to try to make each other feel good, by blowing smoke of whatever it is we’re smoking on each other. We’re here to state the fact–however painful it may be–so we can figure out what’s really wrong with the Philippines, and its people, and perhaps suggest the “right way” way to effect the much-needed change. I don’t know about you but I’m an adamant realist, who will call “spade as spade” and no other color. I’ve been around long enough to… Read more »
gnogid
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We’re here to state the fact…..
I’m going to keep telling you…..
I’m an adamant realist, who will call “spade as spade”…..
the Philippines and its people has no hopeful future to speak of unless we all do something–together….. – Aeta
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I’m still waiting for what you want to say.

Above were just intros. That’s what happened when you are separated from your crystal ball. : )

Again, let me reiterate. We are a nation participating in global events/activities. We are not in danger of extinction or having a civil war.

Aeta
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gnogid, I’ve stated the fact about our people that you’re in utter denial to admit. I understand what you’re going through. I’ve met enough Filipinos who are just like you: in denial of who they are because of their heightened sense of “Pinoy Pride” and individualism. Our arrogance and selfishness are the reasons why our country can’t get their shits together to fix their problems as a nation. The moment you come to terms with that truth, the clearer you’ll see what’s really going on in our country and among our people. What’s with the “crystal ball” fixation? Is there… Read more »
Aeta
Guest
[Revised] gnogid, I’ve stated the facts about our people that you’re in utter denial to admit. I understand what you’re going through. I’ve met enough Filipinos who are just like you: in denial of who they are because of their heightened sense of “Pinoy Pride” and individualism. Our arrogance and selfishness are the reasons why our people can’t get their shits together to fix their problems as a nation. The moment you come to terms with that truth, the clearer you’ll see what’s really going on in our country and among our people. What’s with the “crystal ball” fixation? Is… Read more »
gnogid
Guest

Aeta, you are saying something I cannot understand. First, you are accusing me of denial. What is it that I deny? Actually, I’m admitting some of your allegation about problem of the country. Second, you keep on insinuating about the bad things but you don’t specify clearly what are those and why you think they are important to talk about. Lastly, can you kindly be specific why you think the country and people are hopeless and there is nothing we can do about it?

Shooot! : )

Aeta
Guest

gnogid,

Then put your defensiveness down and understand what I’m saying.

Where do you want me to start explaining why I said what I said, which one you don’t understand or agree with, why I think the things I said are important, and why do I think the country is hopeless?

You’re the one that needs to be specific about what you’re not clear about. I’ll be glad to explain each and every one of them to you so you’ll understand, then scrutinize, and throw back to me as a topic for debate.

Aeta

gnogid
Guest

“..I’ll be glad to explain each and every one of them…” – Aeta
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Sir, I just said ‘shoot’ didn’t I? Do you want me to say ‘go’ this time?

How can we proceed when all you do is make intros, allude and threat to say or do something? Go to the substance and throw everything at me which you think is an important part of the view you hold that I happened to disagree with.

Go!!! : o

Aeta
Guest

gnogid,

Don’t play games with me, Miss Crystal Ball. I see you like playing “Patty Cakes” games when the ball is in your corner. I told you I’ll answer any questions you may have so you won’t accuse me of playing “intro” by dispelling all your notions. So “shoot” your questions since you seem to have been around long enough and know how to shoot your mouth about the Philippines and its people.

Aeta

gnogid
Guest
Susmaryopes oo, Aeta! Okay, fine. Let me repost what I said earlier to you and then you may react: “You remain hopeless because that’s what you are. You have no iota of an idea that will inject positives in your view about the country and the Filipino. Your mind is focus on destruction, criticisms for the heck of it and doubling down on Filipinos because you looked down upon them and have no desire to contribute to anything that will benefit them. For you, they’re not your equal. Fine. I wonder where you started to have that pessimistic view on… Read more »
Aeta
Guest
[Revised] gnogid, Damn, you sound like a media propaganda for the Yellow Party when they were in power: “The economy is improving and the crime rate is down.” Well, we all know that’s not true. I remain hopeless because I don’t dwell in the fantasy world that you immerse your mind in. I live in the Philippine where everywhere you turn, you see the hopelessness in the people’s eyes on the future of their country, their distrust in their government, and their desperate wariness toward each other. Do you live in the United States or other First World country or… Read more »
gnogid
Guest
Here in GRP, I noticed some people’s penchant on the yellow color. If you go against the view of the ‘veterans’ here you are labeled as ‘yellow’. Frankly, I’m color blind and even if you tell me your color I would rather focus on what you say. Color is immaterial to me. What matter is the idea. Also, not all yellow people are the same. Same goes with the anti-yellow people. So, it’s really good if we go stand mano-a-mano with our self, our own principles, our own philosophy and not drag other people in the conversation. You remain hopeless… Read more »
Aeta
Guest
gnogid, Okay, I’ll get to the point. You are suffering from an extreme case of euphoric delusion, brought on by a traumatic experience in the past. Your psychiatrist recommends that you always look at life as a half-full, instead of a half-empty, glass of water. He also recommends you watch at least 8 hours of Oprah, Dr. Phil, Eat Bulaga, Kris T.V., or anything entertaining, to distract you from the harsh reality of life; and, when the unpleasant aspects of being alive comes banging loudly on the doorstep of your consciousness, runaway. Is that description accurate enough and to the… Read more »
gnogid
Guest

I’m still waiting, Aeta, still waiting. 🤔