Foreign media outlets criticising Duterte’s “war on drugs” are clueless about Philippine politics

Articles critical of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte from foreign media outlets are coming out from left, right and centre lately. Unfortunately, they are mostly one-sided. One can’t help but think that they have an agenda — to damage the reputation of the new President and undermine his leadership. This is something that the members of the Liberal Party and their supporters would want.

Take the case of that TIME magazine article. The writer interviewed Senator Leila de Lima for comment about the government’s ongoing “drug war” without realising that the Senator is the last person to ask for a “fair” or “objective” assessment on Duterte’s policy. Aside from De Lima having an axe to grind against Duterte for her failure to pin him down back when she was still the Human Rights Chairperson on his alleged involvement in the Davao Death Squad when he was still Davao City Mayor, De Lima also is very defensive about her failure to eradicate the drug trade inside the country’s penitentiary – The New Bilibid Prison in Muntinlupa City when she was the Secretary of the Department of Justice.

Sen. Leila de Lima: The last person expected to make a fair assessment on the 'war on drugs'
Sen. Leila de Lima: The last person expected to make a fair assessment on the ‘war on drugs’
De Lima already lost her credibility to the public. The only people who support her are rabid Liberal Party supporters. Bringing up her sordid love affair with her former driver at the DOJ would only be considered wrong if the driver wasn’t linked to the drug lords operating at Bilibid prison. The driver would have had access to a lot of contacts inside because of his connection with then Secretary De Lima. Besides, as mentioned before, former President BS Aquino set a precedent for naming and shaming. It’s not surprising that Duterte is continuing the tradition. What’s surprising is how some people expect Duterte to play fair since he has always been brutally honest. De Lima, for her part, has a lot of explaining to do including her failure to deal with drug manufacturing inside the compounds of the Bilibid prison and how the drug epidemic in the country became worse under her watch.

Perhaps he didn’t have enough time to understand the complexities of Philippine politics because it seems Rishi Iyengar, the TIME article writer, was aiming to paint a very gloomy forecast for the next six years under the Duterte leadership. The writer obviously failed to question De Lima’s role as head of DOJ. He could have asked her what measures she instigated to clamp down on the drug lords operating with impunity inside Bilibid. He would have understood why Duterte blames her for the problems he has to deal with today. Pictures of her mingling with known drug lords at a party have been making the rounds on social media. The TIME article would have been more balanced had the writer mentioned it.

What is quite disturbing about the TIME article aside from getting mostly the side of those who are against Duterte’s policy on drugs is the notion that the Philippines’ drug problem is not that bad. Iyengar seems to think that Duterte exaggerated to scare the public so he can convince them that there is a need for drastic measures. He even called his move “the oldest autocratic trick in the book”. Comments like that serves as evidence that the writer applies a strong bias against Duterte in his writing.

In proving that Philippines’ drug problem isn’t that bad, he compared crime rate figures from other places overseas against the crime rate in the Philippines:

But how bad is the Philippine drug problem? According to UNODC data, the highest ever recorded figure for the prevalence of amphetamine use (expressed as a percentage of the population aged 15 to 64) in the Philippines is 2.35. That is a high figure, but then the equivalent figure for the U.S. is 2.20, and the world’s real amphetamine crisis is among Australian males, where the prevalence is 2.90.

When it comes to illicit opioid use, the Philippine prevalence rate is just 0.05, compared to 5.41 in the U.S., and 3.30 in Australia. For cocaine, the Philippine figure is only 0.03. In the U.K., it is 2.40, in Australia 2.10 and in the U.S. also 2.10.

In other words, the statistics show what any visitor to the country may easily see: Filipinos are not degenerates, who need to be protected from themselves, but are mostly a nation of decent, sober, law-abiding and God-fearing people. The most revealing Philippine statistic is this: 37% of Filipinos attend church on a weekly basis. Less than 20% of Americans do.

Nonetheless, Duterte has succeeded in convincing large numbers of his people that drug use constitutes such an emergency that the very existence of the nation is threatened, and that only his rule can save the Philippines. It’s the oldest autocratic trick in the book.

What the heck is the writer trying to say? That the Philippines can still wait a while before addressing the problem? It’s like saying that since the drug problem is not as bad as Mexico, Duterte’s tough stance on drugs is not justified. I don’t think the writer considered the fact that some crimes involving drugs do not get reported anymore and so the data showing the crime rate could be a conservative estimate. Besides, who is he to tell Filipinos when to deal with the country’s drug problem? Most people prefer to nip the problem in the bud. That is why Duterte has the support of the majority of the public. Indeed, foreign media should be focusing on other countries that are not addressing their own drug problems.

Speaking of other countries, in the U.S. the role of one of its own government agencies – the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – in importing cocaine into the country was exposed in the 1990s. They were alleged to have allowed the drug syndicates to sell cocaine to ghettos in California targeting the African-American community the purpose of which was to raise money for the Nicaraguan Contras rebel army. There was outrage when the stories were made public. Imagine your own government being a party to the proliferation of drugs. No wonder some people consider the U.S. war on drugs a “failure”. One government agency was fighting the drug trade while another was fuelling it. That’s just crazy. The investigative journalist who made a series of exposés on this was demonised and met a suspicious death that was ruled as “suicide”. His story was made into a film called Killing the Messenger.

Stories like that make one think that some members of the international community have lost any moral high ground to tell the Philippines how to mind its business. What happened in California in the 1990’s gives Filipinos enough reason to take most foreigners’ criticism with a grain of salt.

Foreign media writers need to put the issues they write about in the proper context. Not all those who were killed died in the hands of the Philippine police. If we are to follow the DOJ’s Operational Guidelines on what can be classified as “extra-judicial killings”, death of suspected drug lords and dealers aren’t even considered as such:

Extra-Legal Killings (ELK) or Extra-Judicial Killings (EJK) – For purposes of operationalization and implementation of A.O. No. 35, the ELK/ElK will refer to killings wherein:

a. The victim was:
i. a member of, or affiliated with an organization, to include political, environmental, agrarian, labor, or similar causes;
or ii. an advocate of above-named causes;
or iii. a media practitioner
or iv. person(s) apparently mistaken or identified to be so.

Homicide where victims are allegedly drug dealers or drug lords cannot be considered “extrajudicial killings” under Philippine law.

For everyone’s information, here is an official tally of “deaths” in Duterte’s war on drugs as of today:

campaign_vs_illegal_drugs

Yes, I know what you are thinking. It seems people have been reduced to numbers and one death is one too many. But this is the Philippines where most people were apathetic to victims of heinous crimes as a result of the drug epidemic in the last six years. It’s quite suspect the way some people are acting so “outraged” now especially since these same people routinely turned a blind eye to the BS Aquino government’s neglect.

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Aeta
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I love all these brilliant exchange from GRP writers and readers about Duterte’s “War on Drugs,” and how he’s being trivialized by local and foreign organizations with the way he’s handling it. Each time I read the articles and comments about the “War on Drugs,” the topic is always about the same major characters (Duterte, De Lima, the Aquinos) and the political bandwagons that they belong to that affect our country and people—so we think. Isn’t it about time for us to change the lenses on our cameras, shoot from different angles, and start highlighting the minor characters that may… Read more »
Bluefad
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I hope UN imposes sanctions to PH. We dont need their help anyway. Screw them and all other countries.

mrericx
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#PHexit is in the works. Why we’re better off without the UN.
http://8list.ph/duterte-threatens-ph-leave-united-nations/

And speaking of UN, I’ll even show you the lists on why that organization is a huge failure in the end. Goodbye, UN:
http://listverse.com/2013/01/28/top-10-failures-of-the-united-nations-2/

NERI
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LOL, the Philippines will start crying and will not what to do when the next Hurricane hits them so hard they will all cry for their Mothers. LOL, but she will be a drowning victim.Its high time people stop sending donations to the country anyway as it never gets to the intended victims anyway.

Bluefad
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Yep we dont need anyone’s help. Its better that way.

JJ
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For sure, rot in yer own pee, poo & spit! What does that corrupt cesspit offer the World anyway, except cheap & practically useless labor!

yellowed out GRP reader
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yellowed out GRP reader
Rishi Iyengar writes for Time magazine and graduated from Columbia University (according to his Twitter profile), but the way he argued his assertion that drugs are not really a serious problem in the Philippines is so amateurish that you would think a college intern wrote his article if you took away the Time logo and hid his “credentials”. Consider what Iyengar wrote: “When it comes to illicit opioid use, the Philippine prevalence rate is just 0.05, compared to 5.41 in the U.S., and 3.30 in Australia. For cocaine, the Philippine figure is only 0.03. In the U.K., it is 2.40,… Read more »
marius
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Fhe statistics show what any visitor to the country may easily see: Filipinos are not degenerates, who need to be protected from themselves, but are mostly a nation of decent, sober, law-abiding and God-fearing people. The most revealing Philippine statistic is this: 37% of Filipinos attend church on a weekly basis. Less than 20% of Americans do.

That is possibly the dumbest paragraph I’ve read in a long, long time 🙂 Thanks for the laugh, yellowed!

Aeta
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Even foreign journalists who come from reputable media conglomerates still have to rely heavily on their information from second and third-hand sources. This is why we have to take what these journalists have to say at “face value” and a form of entertainment at best. Marius said it right in zaxx’s last article. “News are always full of shit”; and, regardless of the news, investors will still find out for themselves whether they should invest in a country or not. Duterte, De lima, and the rest of the political characters are just puppets in the big stage we call “life.”… Read more »
NERI
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The drug problem in the Philippines is not that bad.The ‘WAR’ being waged on the least able to defend themselves,street level drug dealers, is a diversion to keep the people’s minds off of what the biggest problems in the country are. Unemployment,poverty,the highest electricity rates in the world,a crumbling under-developed infra-structure massive corruption at all levels of government,rigging of GOCC contracts, front-running the stock-market.I could go on for an hour….but MAYBE you get the picture? SHABU is not even a real drug,its pseudo-ephedrine and can be made from Sudafed or any other cough medicine.The bigger problem is not the street… Read more »
767Hyden007Toro999.999
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767Hyden007Toro999.999
American Media serves the American interests , not the interests of the Filipinos. This was the reason Marcos, Sr. , was demonized by the American Press, when he was against the extension of the American bases in the Philippines. The U.S. used the Aquinos, to promote their interests in the Philippines. The same way, the Japanese Imperialists invaders, used Benigno Aquino, Sr., as a tool to pacify the occupied Filipinos, during the Japanese occupation. De Lima is a Drug Lord protector. The writer of the Times Magazine, using De Lima as a source of his article; is like using the… Read more »
TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

OMG, GET A CLUE, The USA wants Assad out of Syria so as to remove the Russian Federations only Naval Base on the Mediteranean Sea at Tartuk, Syria. Not because of ‘PETRO-POLITICS’, like you say. So,Look, get a clue as to what you are talking about before opening your mouth. I realize that you may sound intelligent to your FLIP FRIENDS BUT speak to people outside of the Filippines about what is happening in the M.East, and Syria in particular, and you sound like an IDIOT.

111Toro007Hyden9999.999
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111Toro007Hyden9999.999
@Tell it like it: It is Petro Politics. Why is the U.S. interested in the Middle East? It is the oil and the sales of arms (merchants of death)…same as they did in Iran, during the Shah. The Russian naval base, is just one of the prizes. Oil is the energy, we still use. Iraq and Lybia were invaded by proxy, because of the oil. It is Petro Politics. I may sound stupid on you, Egoistic YellowTard…I never ask you to read my blogs. If you agree with me…thanks, if you don’t …thanks. You are an Egoistic idiot and stupid…who… Read more »
NERI
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@ TOR, ‘US disinformation agent’? yes/no. LOL, that is the last thing I/we are. There was MAYBE a little doubt concerning your intelligence before that remark. That doubt has been removed. THANKS for removing it, it was not all that necessary, but thanks anyway.

Greg
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Anyone who uses ‘OMG’ sounds like an idiot. Further, there is oil at play. The U.S. ousted Yanukovych because oil was found in Ukraine; Western oil companies want it. Yanukovych was a democratically elected leader of Ukraine, who was pro-Russia. The imperial U.S., with its un-American government, wants world domination and that includes oil.

NERI
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OMG, FUCK YOU. CRAIG, the discussion was about the Middle-East NOT the UKRAINE.ISRAEL wants to have a ‘GREATER’ Israel, from the Nile to the Euprhrates, and is dictating USA foreign policy in that direction. AS PROOF, Netanyahu demands to speak to the entire USA Congress and they all run to Capital Hill and sit down and listen to him.What other world leader could do that?Russia’s only Mediterranean seaport is in Syria, and the USA wants to shut it down, just like they tried to do in the Crimea. BUT RUSSIA STOPPED THEM. SO FUCK YOU CRAIG,You butt into an argument… Read more »
113Hyden007Toro99999.99
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113Hyden007Toro99999.99

@NERI:

Characteristic of a YellowTard. They change names. Who cares about my intelligence… how about you? You think yourself as intelligent? As I had said; if you agree with me ….thanks…if you don’t thanks. I am forcing anybody to read my blogs.

Tactic of a YellowTard. They think themselves as intelligent. In truth, their skulls are thick…no brain, like their master: Aquino ! They show their ignorance/stupidity on their blogs !

Greg
Guest
Hey Neri, It is obvious you are the same person as ‘Tell it Like it is’, and are a troll. I can tell by your name that you have used at least 3 different names on this site. You are a troll and use different names because of it. I will say it again, you stupid moron: anyone who uses the term ‘OMG’ is an 8 year old and should learn proper speech, not text speech. If you use ‘OMG’ I will assume you are a teeny-bopper and no one will take you seriously. I did not change the subject.… Read more »
Camara
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It is quite obvious that there is a massive All out Propaganda war globally to attack Prez DU30. International Media is currently obsessed in demonizing DU30, one false move and we will end up like Syria.

424Hyden007Toro9999.999
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424Hyden007Toro9999.999

The Japanese American husband of the sister of Aquino was once in the American media. Aquino has some influence in the American media.

Aquino is trying to paint the Philippine War on Drugs, with many Human Rights violation. He is trying to hide that the Shabu Drug problem proliferated in his administration.

American media cannot do anything on Pres. Bashar Assad of Syria. Assad aligned himself with Putin’s Russia. So, the war continues there. Inside Syria, is the Capital of ISIS…

Camara
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The catalyst that led to the Syrian war was because of teenagers who was arrested and tortured that painted anti revolutionary slogan against the Syrian government this uprising turned violent and the conflict has become more than just a battle between pro and anti Assad’s government.

123Hyden007Toro9999.999
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123Hyden007Toro9999.999

The Americans supported the anti Assad fighters. They even wanted to give them air support. However, Putin ordered Russian military to defend Syria. Russian fighters and air support are now in Syria.

It is the same scenario again, when North Korea supported by China and USSR; the South Korea supported by the Americans and the U.N. ; during the Korean war…

Super powers fighting each other in foreign countries. Not in their own countries. It is a very dangerous and volatile situation…

TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

NO, not a chance the Philippines ends up like Syria. No one wants to take care of 95 million poor people and the Ohilippines is only needed as a staging area for wars that will be fought elsewhere.

d_forsaken
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Beware of those who criticize you when you deserve some praise for an achievement, for it is they who secretly desire to be worshiped.

Borticus
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Perhaps the depiction of Philippine drug problem closest to reality:

Walter KOMARNICKI
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the drugs scourge is not some mole on the backside of society – it is a gangrene that needs to be removed for the rest of the organism to survive. there ain’t no such thing as a ‘recreational drug’ – whether it’s tobacco, alcohol, cocaine, shabu, synthetic drugs – they all degrade the immune system, bring the user to a zombie state, and the pusher to a vulture, and do nothing to enhance the beauty of just a natural high. if Philippines is ever to come home from the Olympics some day with a bagful of gold, it’ll be done… Read more »
TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

WHAT? More BULL-SHIT….NEVER has a person been degraded to a ‘ZOMBIE STATE’ from smoking cigarettes. GEEZEUS, the Crack-Cocaine and REAL Methamphetamine(that is NOT for sale in the Phailippines), when used to an extreme, can cause this, but Nicotine and even,dare I say, Alcohol…NO, NO WAY !!!When used in moderation ,ALCOHOL, is the specific example of a recreational drug,Cannabis as well….and only after HARDCORE daily useage can it have a debilitating,permanent effect on the person using it.

345Hyden007Toro9999.999
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345Hyden007Toro9999.999

@Tell it like it:

You are on high in cocaine; and is a druggie. On High, while blogging !

Tell It Like It is.....
Guest
Tell It Like It is.....

‘High IN Cocaine’, LOL, Have you ever even seen COCAINE? You sound like you probably even think that garbage ‘SHABU; has Methamphetamine Nydro-choride in it, and it doesn’t.It has Pseudo-ephedrine in it and you can get that crap out of sudafed cough medicine.

The drug problem is a joke in the philippines, people getting murdered by order of the President over a drug that is not even illegal,PSEUDO-EPHEDRINE. Methamphetamine-HCL is much too expensive to sell in the Philippines. It is more expensive than Cocaine, REAL COCAINE, not that crap, CRACK-COCAINE that is mostly Manitol and oil based baking soda.

Red
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Notice how the TIME article compares Philippines to other Southeast Asian countries on how similar our action was towards drugs. SEA countries are also very supportive of Duterte’s War on Drugs. The west fails to realize that we had to resort to these types of drastic actions because our situation is a far cry from theirs (the west). Western countries had the privilege of being powerhouses since the dawn of time. SEA countries,on the other hand, had been conquered and raped repeatedly in the past by these same western powerhouses. And our countries had been trash ever since. As much… Read more »
Greg
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You make a good point. The western, imperial media does not like Duterte because he is not their puppet. The media is controlled by corporations who fund the media outlets through advertising. Where were the ‘human rights’ frauds before Duterte? They were silent because they didn’t care. Duterte is a (at least somewhat) nationalist who won’t whore the Philippines to foreign countries. The morons who don’t support Duterte said nothing when people were murdered before he was elected; this means they have no problem with murder. Most sensible people are more concerned with the rights of innocent people, than the… Read more »
Greg
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People were being killed before Duterte was elected; we just didn’t hear about it, for obvious reasons. Time magazine is a joke, and it cannot be taken seriously. America, and its mainstream, corporate hacks, will lecture other countries on various ‘human’ issues – but is friends with radical countries who have horrible civil liberties/ rights records. The U.S. likes to invade foreign, soverign countries, which it has no right to do. The military is for defense, not imperial nation-building and other political bullshit. A prime example of un-American, imperial action was the Philippine-American War, circa 1898. The U.S. placed Filipinos… Read more »
TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

‘The stupid American voters’ ? UH NO, The USA government is going to do what it wants to do, regardless of the voters.

The War on drugs, are you even sure you know what it is that is happening/happened in the USA with the war on drugs?it sounds like maybe you do not.You got the Facist part right though….and before you tell me to MYOB, you posted a comment on a blog that invites comments…….everything said here is up for discussion by anyone.

Greg
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The elected officials are the ones who are bribed by various ulterior interests, and yes, the people are too stupid to look at voting records and to research who is funding campaigns. An example is Miss Wall Street, Hillary Clinton. Real Americans would not accept bribes. The duopoly is in place because the corporate interests have both parties controlled. Most voters don’t realize this because they are stupid. The government gets consent from the people, like Jefferson said. The government exists because of taxpayers. No taxes = no government. You don’t think the American people – who were cheering Bush… Read more »
NERI
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NO TAXES=NO GOVERNMENT? REALLY? You haven’t heard of ‘Quantatative Easing’?Part 1-4? The USA has printed $4trillion USDollars in the last 8 years, all out of thin air, backed by nothing but the USA Military.YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.the USA doesn’t need taxation revenue to function, it just prints money whenever they need it.It was stated that the government will do whatever they want, and the people are powerless to stop them. A recent Princeton University study proved that USA voters have virtually no effect on the ploitical process or the laws of the country and its… Read more »
Greg
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Neri fake troll, You did not prove anything because I am correct. I am aware that the Fed prints money, which is why I am in favor of auditing it. You try to put words in my mouth so you sound smart. I know everything you have told me. The U.S. Government does not audit the Fed because they are bought. If the people did not pay taxes there would be no government to protect the Fed legally. The Fed are unelected bankers and the Fed act, created in 1913, is technically illegal. The politicians choose not to follow the… Read more »
a yellow tard
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the yellow dynasty are scared of the nations decent to anarchy against them through sereno’s speech. how could drugs enter the Philippines from china, taiwan, hongkong, etc? are they not checking it at their airports? there’s a strong possibility it’s been manufactured/cooked in the bilibid prison. it’s safe there untouchable.

to end all this political war, distribute hacienda luisita.

a yellow tard
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….general dela rosa is right. set free all drug user to hunt drug lords and pushers and if possible armed them.

Aeta
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General Dela Rosa understands the principles of the “Art of War” (Sun Tzu):

“The enemy’s spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted spies and available for our service.”

Aeta
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The well-positioned Yellow Dynasty is already serving and legitimizing the unbelievable growth of big Chinese-Filipino businesses and Chinese National investors in this country. It doesn’t need to dabble in the pettiness of the illegal drug industry and risk getting caught, which many of the not-yet-billionaire political dynasties are trying very hard to compete for, since there is not enough money from the country’s coffer (i.e., Pork Barrel and Typhoon Yolanda funds) to go around and steal from.

112Hyden007Toro99999.99
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112Hyden007Toro99999.99
The Chinese Triad Mafia Crime syndicate is based in Hong Kong and ShangHai…their foot soldiers, are the ones in the Philippines. Some of the rich Filipino Chinese business people are members of this crime syndicate. It is an old crime syndicate, like the Italian and Sicilian Mafia and Cosa Nostra… The true Bosses and the Boss of the Bosses are in China, directing the crime operations, and money making operations in the Philippines. The Lag lag Bala extortion scam in the international airport, is a classic example of how they make money thru extortion. They are also in prostitution, child… Read more »
Aeta
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A-Fucking-Men, Hayden. It’s time the writers and readers on GRP acknowledge what you and I have known all along and stop beating around the bush.

Jim DiGriz
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I am convinced that Rishi Iyengar has NOT been here and has not talked to anyone mentioned in the article. The write-up is thrown together by a “she said this” and “he said that”, seasoned with some statistics.
No more, no less!

Feilpe
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The past administration has been so over-zealously busy with a witch-hunt, persecuting its political enemies, that this drug problem has aggravated what then was merely a social tumor into a social cancer—a social cancer that has metastasized deeply into so many levels of society, that the only way to rid society of this is to severe some parts that may still relatively appear healthy. If the past administration hasn’t dropped the ball on this problem, perhaps extraction of this cancer may not require the level of precision surgery that the same opposition demands of Duterte—And they have the nerve to… Read more »
Dee
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Thank goodness the people now know better. No amount of foreign bashers will sway the Filipino people. They try so hard to instill fear among the common people. As if to say that we should only now start fearing for lives since we could be the next target of the PNP or the vigilantes. Many yellow supporters would even condecendingly say, “kayong mga Dutertards, sana hindi mga mahal nyo sa buhay ang maging next casualty sa war on drugs.” The people know better. They know what it was to fear for the lives of their sons and daughters who would… Read more »
TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS...
NO WAY, I CALL BULL-SHIT, BIG TIME BULL-SHIT !!! ON IL-DUH !!!!GET A CLUE, LADY WILL YA !!! The Foreign Media is NOT ‘CLUELESS’ about Filippine politics. Anyone who visits the country for a month, or even less, KNOWS that the country is corrupt from bottom to the top.These people KNOW That politicians RUN the local economies much like Feudal Lords in Medieval Europe.IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND AS IL-DUH HERE SUGGESTS, in fact, it is pretty easy to deduce. The recent MURDERS’ supported/condoned by, or possibly initiated by, the President of the country, is just a smoke screen… Read more »
Greg
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You are wrong about the foreign media. I know because they pull the same shit in other countries, with decoys deployed. They are clueless about what is going on, and are using the ‘human rights’ nonsense to attack Duterte. Why were they not moaning about ‘human rights’ 5 years ago? The media was not reporting on people being killed, that’s why. The country has been corrupt for decades, so why would that only matter now to the media?

NERI
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the media have been reporting on it for decades, now and then. No one gives a shit bout corrupt politicians in a 3RD world hell-hole, that is why…its par for the course. BUT, Presidential condoning of the murder of its citizens without due process?…..that is a different story.
This guy Duterte will get away with whatever he wants to do until it crosses the CIA,US Dept of State. When he crosses them, he will be sent packing, one way or another.Its a guarantee.

He doesn’t run anything but his mouth.

Greg
Guest

The media is making a much bigger deal about murder than when anyone else was president. Duterte is not a puppet, so he is attacked. There never was ‘due process’ under any other president.

Robert Haighton
Member

Here is my personal view on why western media (incl Dutch media) are so against Duterte’s actions and way of ‘solving’ a problem.

Today all drug users are killed/murdered/assasinated by police or by whoever.

The question now is: who is next? What is the next problem that needs to be ‘solved’ in the same manner?
All gays, all lesbians, all atheists, all INC members?

Is that how a problem needs to be solved?

marius
Guest
I don’t believe the PNP statistics above (they’re almost certainly made up out of thin air) but as far as I can tell, the vast majority of drug users/pushers etc are not being summarily shot. The streets are not littered with corpses. There are no packs of feral policemen picking off drug addicts. I hear no gunshots at night, even though there are plenty of drug addicts wandering around my neighbourhood. I’m here on the ground, and whatever the newspapers are saying is clearly nonsense. As for those 700 who have (apparently) been executed, what of it? There are 8000… Read more »
TheVoiceofReason
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I have to agree with Robert. You know what bothers me the most…? How if local, narional and internarional report whats going on( and ill tell u right now many of the news outlets have reporters here on the streets) yall scream biased media. Yet its plain as day you are all the biased ones. Fact…over 2000 people have died since Dutertes war on drugs started. Fact.. Jails are 300 to 400% over capacity. Fact… Duterte is loose with his lips and it seems this war on drugs and his way of doing things screams more political then saving a… Read more »
545Hyden007Toro9999.999
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545Hyden007Toro9999.999

@The Voice of Reason:

It is a war…there will be civilian casualties. This war was put upon us. We do not like it. However, Drug Lords kill and murder.

Would you treat them with kid’s gloves? Unless, you are a stupid YellowTards, who keep shouting : Human Rights, in the midst of a war !

TheVoiceofReason
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Its not a war. There is no united front of soldiers. This is murder against tax paying citizens. Wake up toro or hyden or whatever your name is today. Its never been a ” war on drugs” drugs do not take up arms. Funny how u and every other dotard thinks ” human rights” is a dirty demonized western ideal. There is no is versus them. They are us. This is a lie. A propaganda war. Fear drives you and every other dotard. You said No people…Np problem That statement alone shows what you are. You do not care about… Read more »
kekman
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Using the ‘hail bingbong’ seems that you have lost all credibility. Please stop with that nonsense and set your priorities for once, fag. 🙂

TheVoiceofReason
Guest

And yet another insult from the duterte lot.
to claim i have lost all credibility and then throw an insult, what a lovely hypocritical double standard your mind enjoys.
My priorties are truth and evidence based accusations.

Not abuse.

kekman
Guest

@VoiceofCUCKS:

Priorities please. Pointing out a red herring comment of yours is not an insult. You have your own double standards because you were easily get triggered by one tainted surname. Hypocritical, is it?

No, you have no priorities to begin with but to always play the victim card and you’re abusing it. If you think De Lina’s attempts to discredit Duterte is considered as ‘finding truth and evidence-based accusations’ crap, then you have a problem, son.

Robert Haighton
Member
Marius, I postponed my already scheduled visits to the Philippines because of what is going on, right now. Why? Because I am a drug user, pusher or drug lord? No. I just dont want to become another statistic of being at the wrong place at the wrong time and end up dead as an ‘accident’. What I didnt read about so far is what Duterte is doing about the ‘supply-line’. All I read about is the ‘end-line’ (the end users). Why is that? Seize/close/burn all the production facilties and the pipe line gets empty and the end-user will get ‘dry’.… Read more »
Dee
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Even without Duterte and this War on Drugs, the probability of you ending up “dead as an ‘accident'” or ending up as a statistic would still be the same. Probably even higher. As an unprivileged skinny, petite, and weak- looking 24-year old woman that commutes everyday and have to render overtime until 9pm, I feel much safer now. You might scoff and think I’m just deluding my self into feeling safe, but to people/women like me, the fear of criminals and drug users are far worse than our fear of vigilantes and the PNP. Lucky you, you’ve never encountered criminals/drug… Read more »
Robert Haighton
Member
Dee, what makes you under-privileged? Your english is at par, you have a computer and internet access. Hardly to be called the poorest of the poor. Why do you call yourself weak? Are you in a wheelchair? Are you fully dependent on others to move around; to think for yourself? My pinay GF warned me of pickpocketers and to keep my hands always on my wallet; to not wear shinny slick jewelry; and not try to apprehend a thief who just stole my wallet. I agreed to the 2 former but cant accept the latter. If someone steals my wallet… Read more »
756Toro007Hyden99999.999
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756Toro007Hyden99999.999

No people…no problem !

111Hyden007Toro9999.999
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111Hyden007Toro9999.999

If we,Land Reform Aquino’s Hacienda Luisita. Half of the Aquino’s meddling in Philippine politics is solved. Aquino and the Cojuangcos are still meddling in Philippine politics, because they want to save their Hacienda Luista. And, continue the Power of the Feudal Oligarchy. They have also affiliation with the Chinese Triad Mafia Drug syndicate ! See their works when Aquino/Cojuangco was in Power ?

Aeta
Guest

“They have also affiliation with the Chinese Triad Mafia Drug syndicate!”

Chinese only deals with fellow Chinese. The Aquinos are part Chinese; and so are the billionaire Chinese-Filipinos who are monopolizing the country’s economy and Chinese Nationals smuggling drugs, weapons, and people (human trafficking Chinese from mainland China and giving them faked documents to pass off for Filipinos).

222Toro007Hyden9999.999
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222Toro007Hyden9999.999
Some of the overseas Chinese are half Chinese,are affiliated with the Chinese Triad Mafia Drug syndicate. You do not have to be of full Chinese blood to be affiliated with this crime syndicate. A Mexican Drug Lord had been arrested recently; and he is not a Chinese. However, he seems to be affiliated with the Chinese Triad Drug Mafia syndicate. Crooks knows no nationality; color or ethnic origins. It is an organization, that does not discriminate…Bugsy Siegal, the Mafia mobster, who founded Las Vegas, Nevada was a Jew. And, he was a member off the American Mafiosi. A non Italian…Where… Read more »
Aeta
Guest
In the Philippines–like Mexico–where laws and rules can be bent, broken, and straightened when money is involved, is a safe haven for any legal or illegal organizations. There is an old Chinese proverbs that says, “where and when there is a crisis, there is also opportunity.” The Philippine archipelago remains a very politically and economically chaotic region because the Chinese (Chinese-Filipinos and Chinese Nationals) are making sure it stays that way–by way of fostering graft and corruption–so they can continue to fleece (rape) the country of its wealth. The Filipino people also need to realize that our government officials are… Read more »
kekman
Guest

@TheVoiceofCUCKS:

Pot calling the kettle black, aren’t we?

Just to remind you that you’re also doing insults and abuse when it’s a discussion about the Marcoses, calling anyone a ‘hack’ or a ‘propagandist’ to people who have a neutral POV. And sugarcoating anything and doing the appeal to the emotions approach doesn’t even make you correct either.

222Toro007Hyden99999.999
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222Toro007Hyden99999.999

@The Voice of Reason:

ISIS Caliphate is on war with the Infidels. There are no fronts of soldiers. Terrorists are blowing themselves, and innocent infidels.

Drug Lords are armed, killing whoever,cross their path in their Shabu business. Wake up, YellowTard, you may be their next victim!

Aeta
Guest

Hayden,

I wouldn’t waste my time explaining anything to TheVoiceofTreason. This wet-behind-the-ears motherfucker still thinks rice will grow on concrete. That’s why I nicknamed him “Nostra-Dumbass”; he is always predicting the Philippines will solve its problems by leaving things the way they are.

Aeta

TheVoiceofReason
Guest

@ toro Wow. Sorry were we talkng about isis or the ” drug war”.
I fail to see similarities, unless of course u r a nutter.

@ Aeta. You have such a negative and screwed up look at the country and its people.
You people that condone this are so loud and abusive towards anyone with a different opinion its no wonder the people against it are so quiet.
The only person that is wet behind the ears is you.
Go back to the dark ages you dinosaurs.

kekman
Guest

@VoiceofCUCKS:

Says you, who keeps on spreading crap like Singapore being a police state with little less freedom. If things like discipline and responsibility are bad in your view, then you have a much screwed up mind since all you want is anarchy and chaos.

Unfortunately, you got caught up with the “Think Positive” mentality that most Pinoys have so that’s why they delude themselves and keeps on telling everyone that “Everything is okay”, which is isn’t.

You’re already living in the dark ages, plankton. And I’m talking about people who just want to remain with the status quo.

TheVoiceofReason
Guest
Im sorry? Have you lved in Singapore If so where.? At what point have i said lets keep the status quo? More words u pulled from your twisted world view. What makes you think filipinos are different from other humans? I have been around the world, lived in many countries. People are all the same. You have your redneck, kill em all Neanderthals in every culture. I do not need to hurl insults or abuse at you. Im at a loss at where you think i have lied or where this ” think positive” ideal you think i have has… Read more »
kekman
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@VoiceofCUCKS: I’m sorry, did you ever contradict yourself? Why do ask me those if you don’t even value things like discipline and responsibility? What makes Filipinos different from other humans is the culture. People are the same, yet they were different thinking and culture. If you’re trying to justify this country’s dysfunctional culture, then you have a problem. Filipinos are too emotional for their own good, have their false sense of pride and the sense of entitlement is everywhere. Or maybe you don’t realize it. And yes, everything is not okay. But back then before Duterte came into the presidency,… Read more »
TheVoiceofReason
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Fidel was not the liberal party. Estrada was not lineral party and gloria was not the liberal party. That is unless, you have a different version of history to the rest of the world? filipino culture is different to every other countries culture yes, that is correct. Just as every other countries culture differe to other countries. Does that mean that what works in every other county just does not work in the philippines.? Ofcourse not. This is a lie told by too many people to somehow defend atrocities. I do not understand you guys. Somehow ever single national and… Read more »
Aeta
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TheVoiceofTreason, “@Aeta. You have such a negative and screwed up look at the country and its people.” Good! Now you know know I’m being brutally honest and not blowing smoke up everybody’s ass like what you’re doing. People are not responding to what I said because they already know what I’m saying is the cold hard truth but it’s too embarrassing and uncomfortable to talk about it; or, they don’t have a strong enough argument to discount what I said. In your case you will say shit just to say shit. That makes you an El Primo Bullshittero, and it… Read more »
kekman
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@VoiceofCUCKS:

Then again u r probably thinking that a president that endorses vigilantee behavior( dds) or a police chief that tells people to kill people and burn down their houses is a step forward in the right direction.
Who is next?

Here’s a hint:

“Lumad killings and Kidapawan Massacre happened and no one bats an eye, Duterte have started killing criminals and everyone loses their minds.”

TheVoiceofReason
Guest

Over 2000 people dead in 7 weeks.
Yes there has always been killings but not in these numbers.
Meber endorsed pibically either.
I do not care about insults Aeta.
Im only getting them because thats all u guys know how to do when someone disagrees with you.
Insult and abuse.
Your version of truth is not the real version.
Just because you are bitter does not make your view correct

Aeta
Guest

TheVoiceofTreason,

I’m only insulting you because you’re stupid, who thinks the sun will always shine on the Filipino people regardless of what they do.

Maybe in a test tube but not in real life.

Aeta

kekman
Guest

@TheVoiceofCUCKS:

Pot calling the kettle black, aren’t we?

Just to remind you that you’re also doing insults and abuse when it’s a discussion about the Marcoses, calling anyone a ‘hack’ or a ‘propagandist’ to people who have a neutral POV. And sugarcoating anything and doing the appeal to the emotions approach doesn’t even make you correct either.

Please stop with this victim mentality crap.

TheVoiceofReason
Guest

I called someone a hack?
Thats interesting

kekman
Guest

Point missed but what do I expect from someone who had an angry mob mindset?

TheVoiceofReason
Guest

Appealng to emotions?
Not at all.
Just stating facts.

kekman
Guest

@TheVoiceofCUCKS:

Choosing facts to fit on your agenda or for your personal convenience is not stating facts either. Go figure.

Aeta
Guest

I’ve finally came to a conclusion that TheVoiceofTreason is paid troll by the Yellow Party. Nobody is that stupid. This troll’s idiotic comments had to be staged to get our cages rattled. Nice try, Nostradumbass (TheVoiceofTreason).

a yellow tard
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i think hacienda luisita has something to keep secret to the Pilipinos. they knew that land belongs to the farmers but why they’re fighting for it over their dead body? is it really true that general antonio luna delivered the people’s money to isidra to hide it from the americans at that time? they said it’s just not one cart filled with golds and silvers? if it’s true it might be still there somewhere. how could they move it out there if it’s 4,5,6,etc number of carts? is it one reason why they can’t give it away to the farmers… Read more »
898Hyden007Toro9999.999
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898Hyden007Toro9999.999
Once the land is given to the farmers. Take a Metal Detector; and detect some buried treasures. There are advanced metal detector accessories, that can target prominently: gold, silver and other precious metals. There are deep ground penetrating metal detectors, designed recently. Remember to ask permission to the Philippine government. If treasure is found. Maybe 50-50 share/deal could be made, before you go on treasure hunting…50% for you; 50% for the Philippine government. Want a deal with Pres. Duterte? These treasures were the bribe of Aquinaldo, to stop his rebellion and go for exile…these silver and gold came from Mexico.… Read more »
a yellow tard
Guest

the OFW’s should be privided housing for their family at low cost payment. money is not a problem. sequester all being acquired by corruptors in the past administrations and put it down to OFW’s who themselves worked hard for the country.

Aeta
Guest

[Revised]

The OFWs are never going to be offered low-cost housing. Why is that? Remittance money is the main reason why Filipinos are allowed out of the Philippines in the first place to work as OFWs; it’s the money they will send back and spend on Chinese-owned businesses: condominiums, house and lot, automobiles, and spending spree at SM and Robinson malls, while the politicians get a hefty kickback from the revenues. Feudalism is a well-established economic system in this consumer-minded society.