Filipinos suffer economic sanctions because Philippine President Noynoy Aquino refuses to apologize to Hong Kong

Hong Kong has finally made good on their threat to impose economic sanctions on the Philippines and cancel the visa-free access for Filipinos three years after the deaths of eight Hong Kong nationals touring the Philippines back in 2010.

President BS Aquino: Covering for his friends who bungled the hostage crisis?
President BS Aquino: Covering for his friends who bungled the hostage crisis?
Big deal, right? Judging by the number of Filipinos who reacted with outrage over the news, of course it is a big deal. A lot think that Hong Kong is resorting to bullying tactics. Some are even saying that the sanctions could be Mainland China’s brainchild. Never mind that Philippine President Benigno Simeon “BS” Aquino’s lack of diplomatic skills is part of the reason the Philippines has a tense relationship with a few of our South East Asian neighbors, not just Hong Kong. The economic sanctions are a real achievement under BS Aquino’s government.

There are Filipinos who strongly support the notion that the whole country should not be punished for the act of one homicidal maniac. But is it really just the fault of one man? Not according to the official reports conducted by the Incident Investigation and Review Committee (IIRC).

Let us cut to the chase. The Philippine government is currently in no position to play games when it comes to dealing with any of its ASEAN neighbors especially since the Philippines is still very much dependent on Filipino overseas foreign workers to sustain its economy. After all, Hong Kong is temporary home to some 100,000 Filipino domestic helpers and is still one of the favorite holiday and shopping destinations of the Filipino people not just for its proximity and affordability but also for its sights and sounds. If Filipinos do not want to be “bullied”, they should not put themselves in a position where the other party has the upper hand.

Unfortunately, the patience of lawmakers on the island on China’s south coast have finally run out after waiting for three years for a formal apology from the Philippine government. Hong Kong lawmakers must have thought that their issuance of a top-level black travel alert for the Philippines was not enough to compel the Philippine President to consider admitting the country’s shortfall during the botched hostage rescue operations. Manila Mayor Joseph Estrada’s apology was apparently also not enough to pacify the angry Hong Kong lawmakers and particularly the family of the victims.

Fatal incompetence: Manila SWAT team in action in 2010
Fatal incompetence: Manila SWAT team in action in 2010
Some people do find it strange that BS Aquino is not willing to accept that the country’s obligation to protect foreign nationals in Philippine territory has failed. Likewise, he is not willing to accept that the hostage crisis was bungled due to a combination of the incompetence and lack of coordination among various government agencies.

The members of the Manila SWAT team who complained about not being able to see inside the bus to assess the situation because they did not even have flashlights, were “not only ill equipped but they were not trained in different kinds of situations”:

There was lack of equipment on the part of Manila SWAT to handle the situation. Although they had their basic weapons such as their armor vest (the effectiveness [of which] are already in deep question), their rifles, pistols and Kevlar helmets but still by standards, these are not adequate to address the hostage crisis situation. It is very evident that they were not even carrying with them flashlights but all of the time they were reporting and complaining that the interior of the bus was dark. The lack of equipment already put the breaching operation into a compromise. The element of surprise was gone that resulted into a stall that lasted for sometime thereby endangering lives. The doubt regarding the effectiveness of their armor vest contributed to the apprehension of the SWAT members to rush inside the bus during the assault.

The Manila SWAT was not only ill equipped but they were not trained in different kinds of situations. In fact they had to rehearse on the very day of the hostage situation. The trainings of the Manila SWAT as provided by the Manila Police District are not updated and simulated operations were conducted, if ever conducted, was a long time ago. They don’t even know the serial numbers of their guns at an instant query. They train on their own personal account. Skill acquired through trainings diminishes after some time and needs to be constantly updated.

Overstepped the bounds of responsible journalism: Erwin Tulfo
Overstepped the bounds of responsible journalism: Erwin Tulfo
The situation was made worse by the narcissism and arrogance of some members of the mainstream media. Like I said before, members of the media should also be held liable for the deaths of the Hong Kong tourists because their continued coverage of the hostage taker’s brother Gregorio Mendoza while in police custody triggered Rolando’s attack on the tourists inside the bus. It seems the journalists wanted their 15 minutes of fame judging from the way reporter Erwin Tulfo wriggled his way inside the cordoned area with a cameraman in tow even when hostage taker Mendoza specifically asked for a female reporter and, more importantly, even when he wasn’t supposed to be there. Even radio reporter Michael Rogas of Radio Mo Network (RMN) took it upon himself to occupy the only line of communication available to the hostage taker, Mendoza’s cell phone, despite him not being an official hostage negotiator.

Filipinos who are crying foul over Hong Kong’s economic sanctions on the Philippines should read the IIRC report. It is easily accessible through the Internet even by the relatives of the eight Hong Kong tourist and Hong Kong lawmakers who have the power to make life for Filipinos who want to work and visit Hong Kong very difficult. The report highlighted the insensitivity and negligence on the part of then Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim. Here are some excerpts:

Former Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim with President BS Aquino in happier times
Former Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim with President BS Aquino in happier times

Mayor Alfredo Lim

As Chairman of the local CMC which exercised jurisdiction over the crisis incident, Mayor Lim failed to properly activate the CMC and render it fully functional to respond to the crisis as required under existing protocol. Based on existing guidelines, the CMC is charged with the responsibility “to take decisive action in emergency situations” and to integrate and orchestrate “government, military/ police and public efforts towards the prevention and control of (the) crisis incident” (4.3.1, 4.3.3, Crisis Management Manual).

Mayor Lim failed to observe the appropriate degree of attention required by the gravity and highly-volatile nature of the crisis, involving the hostage-taking of 21 foreign nationals, 3 Filipinos and one local Chinese by a fully-armed and distressed police officer, evincing gross failure to accord due importance to his role and responsibilities as head of the CMC in addressing the crisis.

As head of the CMC, Mayor Lim’s conduct bespeaks of a weak, if not anemic, response to the hostage-taking crisis, unmindful of its gravity and the urgency of its resolution as every moment of delay in ending the crisis increases the risk to the safety of the hostages, mostly foreign nationals, and the damage to the image of the country before the international community.

As such, Mayor Lim’s subsequent orders to handcuff, arrest and forcibly take SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza to “Tondo” was completely unjustified, improper, reckless and contrary to established protocols in negotiations. At that time, Mayor Lim was fully aware that the situation in the bus was turning extremely volatile in light of Mendoza`s outright rejection of the Ombudsman letter and his hostile action in firing his gun to express his frustrations with the negotiators whom he accused of having fooled him.

It was the height of irresponsibility for the Chairman of the CMC to abandon the command post and take along with him the ground commander to Emerald Restaurant on the lame justification that he was hungry and nothing was happening yet (“wala pang nangyayari”). At that time, the protracted 8-hour negotiation had already collapsed after the hostage-taker rejected the Ombudsman letter and resorted to a hostile action by firing his gun, indicating a highly-agitated mental state and obviously warranting close attention and immediate measures to prevent further deterioration of the situation.

The IIRC report also highlighted the incompetence and lack of urgency on the part of then Interior and Local Government Undersecretary Rico Puno:

President BS Aquino's 'shooting buddy': Undersecretary Rico Puno
President BS Aquino’s ‘shooting buddy’: Former Undersecretary Rico Puno

Interior and Local Government Undersecretary Rico Puno

It is the conclusion of the Committee that, the improper assumption by Usec. Puno of the functions of the Secretary of DILG as the chairman of the National Crisis Committee, in the light of his admitted lack of training and experience, may have compromised the readiness of the national CMC to take over the responsibility when it became apparent that the local CMC could not properly handle the hostage situation. That readiness could have been the immediate answer to the worsening situation. Puno’s failure to call upon the other members of the national CMC to be on standby reflects this lack of capacity. While he may have good intentions, rules must still be followed, and the organizational structure of the national CMC must be maintained.

It is worth mentioning that Lim who is a friend of the Aquino family and Puno who is a close friend of BS Aquino, both belong to the President’s political party. Everyone should know by now how protective the President is of his friends and allies. No wonder Hong Kong’s request that officials who were negligent during the hostage crisis be made accountable will simply be ignored and dismissed. It should come as no surprise then why President BS Aquino refuses to apologize.

Filipinos who want to support the President’s stand on this issue should accept Hong Kong’s sanctions. They should avoid crying foul and acting like losers by speculating about China’s hand in Hong Kong’s decision. It’s an entirely separate issue from the ongoing standoff over the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal. They should be careful about further angering the Chinese people with baseless accusations that could make them add further economic sanctions.

[Photo of Alfredo Lim with Noynoy courtesy GMA News.]

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Jerry Lynch
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Aquino needs to apologize for being President of a country with a police force that is about as efficient as a tuna net trying to catch sardines. Even the police “tuna net” here can never even catch the really big tuna such as Ruben Ecleo Jr. and the brothers from Puerto Princessa, the three of whom have been dubbed “the BIG 3” with rewards of P4 million placed on their heads. I have personally told numerous PNP officials that I know the whereabouts of Ecleo and I want my reward, but they are either too stupid to listen to me… Read more »
Gerry
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EZ Jerry, b-casting that you are trying to have a major criminal arrested could be tragic…..for you!

CMU? that’s a good one!

domo
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Like you said Ilda, Filipinos need to develop a sense of shame or guilt like the Japanese but not in the extent that they should kill themselves of course.

potaters
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Ultimately, PNoy and the non-apology people are coming from that on trait that I am so sick and disgusted of hearing about: PRIDE. Logically, we can see that the national government was at fault here but no, we have to assign unfounded speculations instead of manning up and apologizing. For the nth time, we can’t see the forest for the trees. STUPID PRIDE.

bob
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Please put a stop to this embarrassment and let’s issue that apology now!!
We bungled the rescue with our Keystone Cops, Lim got hungry and took a break to eat, people got killed, responding ambulances were poorly equipped… The list goes on and on. Tama na!

honesto
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PNoy is right. The country is not involved by a crime committed by one man. This is their loss, not ours.

domo
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Masarap maging iresponsableng inutil ano?

honesto
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What is inutil in that? They will lose tourists and let us admit that it is only hatred that drove them to do it.

barbero
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Failipinos don’t understand the phrase “we need them more than they need us” or vice versa.

WinterSoldier
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TROLL. 😛

Gerry
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@Ilda, Honesto is right. The HK-ers are hateful and spiteful and if they do not se that it was the act of one crazed Man, eff em.
HK-ers want to take out their sick needs on their domestic help, let em washy their own clothey.
Lim was the one who should have apologized, if any Filipino was to.NOW? Too late.

Jerry Lynch
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“@Ilda, Honesto is right. The HK-ers are hateful and spiteful and if they do not se that it was the act of one crazed Man, eff em.
HK-ers want to take out their sick needs on their domestic help, let em washy their own clothey.
Lim was the one who should have apologized, if any Filipino was to.NOW? Too late.”

You miss the point. The apology should not be made for the actions of “one crazed man” but for the actions of an unprepared and incompetent police force and the failure to punish those officials responsible for the mess “resolving” the standoff.

atozet
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Did the Chinese govt apologized when one Filipino lady doctor got killed on a terrorist attack recently in China ?

Jerry Lynch
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When a terrorist attack kills Chinese people in China and a foreigner happens to be killed as well, it is most certainly NOT the obligation of the attacked country to apologize for anything. In the case of the Chinese tourists, the attack occurred in The Philippines and could have been stopped by Philippine authorities if they had been in the slightest bit competent. It IS the responsibility of the Philippine Government to apologize for its internal stupidity and lack of competence. It ALSO IS the responsibility of the Philippine Government to both apologize for the bungled aftermath in which nobody… Read more »
domo
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@gerry: Said the jonas’ doppleganger who is an anti-china warfreak.

@atozet: And yet the chinese criminals here committing a crime were sentenced to lifetime imprisonment according to this country’s law. It’s the law stupid and you have no choice but to follow their law.

Gerry
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@ Jerry, No…just because I did not say it doesn’t mean I missed it. Do you see Barrack Obamma apologizing to Filipino’s for the Cops shooting an un-armed Filipina 6 months ago in a Maryland,USA super-market? Hell NO you don’t, and you won’t. I was down the block when the hostage crisis started and I knew it wasn’t going to end well.it sux that it happened and it should have been handled better, but it is not the Head-of-States place to apologise. It just is not. IDC, no one will change the way I see this. It is also too… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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In a country where everything, including the police and even elementary schools is/are “national” then it IS the job of the President to make apology for accepting the job of an inept organization. I agree that Lim and all the police and the media players who interfered should have been jailed. What I don’t believe is that it is too late for an apology because this is Asia, not the west and it is an Asian mentality to demand the apology and accept it no matter how insecure it might be in reality. That apology would probably defuse the current… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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LIAR

Gerry
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Call me Bond, James Bond. Coz I might as well be, if you do not know how to get a fire-arm to protect yourself in a foreign country.

Gogs
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Nice one prick. Mirroring the sentiments or lack of sentiment and empathy of your moron boss and idol. Our tax money at work is you sprouting off BS endorsed by BSA .

honesto
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He is not a moron, and I tell you, he has balls not to be intimidated by Hong Kong to pressure Him to give what they want. The same goes to China for invading our waters.

barbero
Guest

Well you could be right on PeNoy having the balls. But of course that doesn’t mean he’s having the brains. OR… Are Filipinos all bark no bite???? Though I hope PeNoy can back his mouth, otherwise the bully can clobber him till his blue and violet.

barbero
Guest

He sure does have THE MOUTH. But balls? But for sure he doesn’t have the brain. And oh we readily apologize to Taiwan when Taiwan threatens to sanction Pinas.

joeld
Guest

That is not having balls….that is all bark but no bite.

Gerry
Guest

@ Honesto, RIGHT AGAIN. Fuck China, they are putting their own people to slavery for the West. and now are encroaching on Filippine resources for their own greedy ends. Make them pay for what they want out of the Shoals.
Never apologise for something that is not your doing.

Jerry Lynch
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“@ Honesto, RIGHT AGAIN. Fuck China, they are putting their own people to slavery for the West. and now are encroaching on Filippine resources for their own greedy ends. Make them pay for what they want out of the Shoals. Never apologise for something that is not your doing.” First off, what business does a Filipino who can’t even spell “Philippines” correctly have making ANY comment whatsoever? When Filipinos say “Fuck China” it is like an infant saying “Fuck you Pacman, I’ll just kick your ass today because I don’t like your children’s crazy names.” The Philippines is in no… Read more »
Johnny Derp
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He’s definitely a moron since he keeps letting you spout non-sensical propaganda. He’s a moron since he keeps a failure like you in his communications group.

domo
Guest

@jonas’ doppelganger: Then don’t buy made in china products then. Hell you better stop buying Apple products. Btw it’s obvious that most of the gadget’s parts you are using for your idiotic posts here are made in china. Hypocrite.

Gerry
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yo Jerry, You talkin to me? I am not a Filipino and I spell Filippines the way I like to spell it and do not give a shit. the analogy you make about the baby talking to Paquiao is about as assinine as it gets. You wanna trade insults? lets Rock! if not, don’t care. I have my opinion and nothing you say or do will change it. The fail-ippines really doesn’t have much to be proud of but it doesn’t mean Aquino has to apologise as far as Mendoza shooting the hostages. It is beating a dead horse at… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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I’ve no idea who you really are, but spelling the name of a person or country intentionally just because you don’t respect them is asinine. To spell it “Fail ippines” may make a point, but to just spell it “Filippines” is nothing short of stupid. The problem now lies with the Philippine Government which not only should have done things differently during the event, but then after the debacle should have apologized and sanctioned the assholes who “performed” as they did. It may be a bit late in the day for an apology, but the people suffering are not the… Read more »
Gerry
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@ J. Lynch, U must think I am an idiot, or an American, or both. LMAO. I have travelled thru the country w/ that very same weapon, on planes , trains and auto-mobiles. it is not ‘mine’ but is NEVER far from me. my ‘partner is trained and licensed to carry any firearm wherever he/she may want to take it.there are two nasty-as-shit-getzs Rottweiller dogs that are never far from my side as well. I mind my own business but protect mine own business from others who may want to make their business mine, see?in 8 years not a single… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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Well then, who or what the fuck are you that allows you to carry ANY gun on an airplane? If you are a foreigner in The Philippines you are NEVER allowed to carry a firearm or even an air gun. Perhaps if you are active duty military on official business you might. If you are going to make such cryptic remarks you should explain your circumstances. If your personal identity must be kept secret then the internet is certainly the place you can make such statements with impunity.

Gerry
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@ Lynch, since you have devolved this into an insult-a-thon, I’ll tell you this: you could take a firearm on any aircraft in the country, probably the free world. if you are too dense to figure out that the firearm/projectiles must be surrendered at the entry to the passenger terminal and it/they are picked up at the “Firearm” booth located at the destination terminal, you need to have everything spelled out for you? maybe I should use single syllable words? Firearms are transported legally by law-biding citizens across the globe on a constant basis, just because you might not be… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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There is a big (huge in fact) difference between “carrying” a firearm onto an airplane and putting it in checked baggage where it will always be more than the “never more than 5 feet away” you claim. In the luggage hold it might as well be on Mars if you need it while flying. I don’t really give a rats a** who you are but it seems you are hiding behind a bogus ID, or no ID whatsoever. Should you come to my place in Mindanao with a weapon on your body, not only would it be sniffed out by… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
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I’m going to add one more thing to my last reply. If you are a foreigner in The Philippines you cannot take a gun on a plane, even checked, because you are not permitted to carry it (or own) any place in the country, let alone into the airport where you are screened upon entry into the terminal building.

Chrissie
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If exactly the same thing happens to us in a foreign land and the head of that land doesn’t apologize at the very least, I wonder how we Filipinos would respond, considering our famed “Pinoy pride”? Whatever happened to the golden rule?

“This is their loss, not ours.”
– What arrogance! Is that any way to treat one’s guests?

honesto
Guest

What is arrogance in that? It is their tourist arrivals that will be affected by what they have done. They will force our kababayans to change their travel plans this season.

WinterSoldier
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TROLL. 😛

Jerry Lynch
Guest

Hong Kong does not need a single Filipino tourist in order to survive or do well. The Philippines NEEDS Hong Kong to employ the 100K + maids and housekeepers in order to get the remittances from them. When HK restricts bvisas and stops employing Filipinos they can hire maids and domestics far cheaper from Pakistan and Indonesia.

domo
Guest

Tell that to the Americans and Europeans who are still visiting Hong Kong not just for tourism but also for business. What will you gonna do? Promote the “it’s more fun in the philippines” crap to them so that they will go to this country instead of Hong Kong? Hindi sila mga dakilang uto-uto na kagaya mo para maloko sila tungkol sa kaguluhan at mga malalaking issues ng bansang ito kahit marami ditong mga magagandang beach resort.

Gerry
Guest

@ Chrissie, a Filipina émigré to the USA was recently shot to death by the Police who responded to a call about a distressed woman in a Maryland, U.S.A. super-market. Do you see the President of the U.S.A. apologizing? the cops were ‘doing their job’, Mendoza was not.

barbero
Guest

Indeed it was Mendoza’s crime. BUT GROSSLY MISHANDLED BY AQUINO or whoever is responsible. Clearly Mendoza could have been taken down by single sniper shot.

honesto
Guest

Negotiations took place but Mendoza is the one that broke it, hence his fault.

barbero
Guest

It is still what it is. MISHANDLED.

barbero
Guest

Oh BTW your stupid. You don’t expect criminals to be honorable right?

barbero
Guest

I can’t believe it what you just have said. A criminal broke his word that’s why it’s his fault?!! This is like a statement of a toddler!

Gerry
Guest

it was Lim who was in charge and he handled it like an idiot and should have been removed from office by Aquino. that would have gone a long way towards healing relations w/HK-ers.

it is just not Aquino’s job to handle a local hostage situation.it really wasn’t.

barbero
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When you put Filipinos in-charge of a difficult situation (heck even the easiest situation) they are bound to fcuk-up. I mean retards doesn’t have the capacity to resolve complex problem – so what do you expect.

honesto
Guest

It is not only bound to Filipinos, but to human kind as well.

WinterSoldier
Guest

TROLL post detected. 😛

Multiple times.

domo
Guest

It’s very obvious that you are now doing the victim card.

Gerry
Guest

true dat barbero.

Hayysss!!!!
Guest

@barbero ang @gerry, hmmm… if your not a Filipino then you should come to Philippines specially Cebu city and observe what you call retards, try and fool them like retards if you can. And you can see that they will act as retards if they have to just to fool you.

Gerry
Guest
Lim is a weasel, it was his job to apologise. Rico Puno stole the Peso’s fir NCR cops bulletts. Face it, the Philippines wants to be world class but the thievery taking place is making proper military assault training of police professionals impossible. Mendoza throwing the tear gas canister back at the SWAT team was just as tragic as it gets, and those people should not have died. foreigners beware, you won’t like the way you are treated in the Philippines. Just ask the hostages, oh wait, ya can’t…coz their dead! Whatta dump Manila is. Lim is a POS, and… Read more »
mohamad
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joe america makes good points here in his article on the issue:

http://joeam.comm/2013/11/06/why-mayur-estrada-is-wrong-on-hong-kong/

After reading I still feel that regardless whether an apology should be made or not I think it is more interesting to know what actually happened to the people responsible for this tragedy (like the media, officer in charge of the operation, etc)?

Okay maybe there are valid points to not issuing an apology to Hongkong but the least our President could have done is have these people take some responsibility. And I think that our President has some responsibility too because some of the people involved are under him.

concernd
Guest

hongkong has an aging population and low birth rates. they will be weeded out and become extinct so who cares why should we kneel down to them?

barbero
Guest

Because da pinas govt mishandled the situation. Because there are 160,000 OFWs in HK – unless you have jobs waiting for them in da pinas.

yan
Guest

On the flipside, the Philippines can’t control it’s growing, uneducated kiddy population because the morons there think wearing rubber is “sacrilege” against God.

Gerry
Guest

No, they can’t afford condoms.

Sanzo
Guest
And yet they can buy cp load, liquor and spirits, packs or even reams of cigarettes…people still up to their old vices including sex and yet they could not buy a single pack of condom…I guess that’s what you can call choice..they choose not to even if there’s a choice when you can. Funny how they can’t “afford” condoms, that’s just an inconvenient excuse…whatever happened to the RH Bill that everyone seems to be so hot about almost a year ago huh? what now? where’s the FREE condom? I guess maybe no one even bothered distributing it..or maybe if it… Read more »
Jerry Lynch
Guest

The “free condoms” have not been distributed because just just as in America where the tea party idiots are trying their best to stop implementation of a law (Obamacare) that was passed in 2010; some of your more idiotic legislators and the ever-meddling Catholic Church are doing their best to derail implementation of the RH Bill.

Sanzo
Guest

Well, I’ll be damned so that’s why. So..what’s the point of passing a bill that is still being blocked on all ends? I guess eventually…everything is a freakin’ deakin’ circus.

Gerry
Guest

the RH bill was just another Filipino scam to spend billions of peso’s to furnish politicians kids with cars in the countries where they go to school.

joeld
Guest
You really think that apologizing for a mishandled situation is “kneeling down”? Just where do you get your logic? It is called being a HEAD OF STATE. Or if you still cannot get it, try this analogy: your kid broke something in a department store, you as a parent (head of the family) will apologize to the store owner and pay for whatever damages. IT IS SO SIMPLE. Was that kneeling down to the store owner? It is more of being a RESPONSIBLE head of the family. Following your reasoning, what you will do is leave your kid behind since… Read more »
Johnny Derp
Guest

Not apologizing to Hong Kong is already equivalent to not taking responsibility for what happened under this administration. Malacanang idiots like you really need to face the truth that nobody here will ever listen to you.

Still not very bright are we, concernd a.k.a sendonggirl?

Jerry Lynch
Guest

I actually agree with your statement, but even though it is now the responsibility of the national government to take responsibility for the debacle, it should not have been the responsibility of Aquino to micro-manage the situation personally. The police should have been properly trained and it is not the job of the president to manage such things that should be Standard Operating Procedure or SOP.

domo
Guest

Tell that to the Americans and Europeans who are still visiting Hong Kong not just for tourism but also for business.

Attila
Guest

When it comes to the USA than Filipinos become sensitive loud mouth right fighters. When it comes to China than Filipinos become the opposite. China is a bully and Filipinos fear it. What is the moral of the story?
Treat Filipinos nice and they will abuse you or don’t be nice just abuse them, make them fear you and they will respect you.

domo
Guest

And that’s the problem with da pinoys and their misguided pinoy prayd: they always demand respect because they always think they’re far more better than the rest of the world.

Gerry
Guest

Yep….and they are not.

Jerry Lynch
Guest

What the hell is “prayd?”

Gerry
Guest

Right again.

Genki
Guest

The Norwegian government apologized to it’s people for it’s incompetence in handling the Breivik 2011 attacks. So why can’t we apologize for the government’s incompetence as well? Not a single soul has been made accountable for the handling of the tragic event.

Sanzo
Guest

This is certainly bad news for me, since I have already made reservations months ago for the ticket and the hotel to Hong Kong. For this issue to creep up again just spoils the fun, I guess I made a dumb mistake then which really sucks because my mom and dad were so looking forward to the trip. I guess next time I will book elsewhere then. Thank you to our esteemed government 😀 You’re the best! PROUD TO BE PINOY WOOHOO~!

Sanzo
Guest
Getting that out of the way, I’d like to hear your opinions on these ones..I think it is still on-topic with the issues about Hong Kong and Philippines. I guess as much as we have issues here with our government and representatives well, they’ve got issues of their own too. In one of the articles there, I believe it says some of the politicians are using this tragic issue for their own ends, given the declining popularity of some of their leaders in which it’s just about the same as with our own leaders..and because of this..both people of these… Read more »
Nien
Guest

I don’t understand why the country is making enemies left and right when it is not even capable of protecting the interests and safety of its people. What now? Are they going to cry to Uncle Sam because Hong Kong is being a big meany to them?

Sanzo
Guest

It is always in the interest of self-interest. nuff said. Both parties aren’t popular with their own people..I’ve read the side of the Philippines and the side of Hong Kong..this is pretty much a deadlock so far.

ChinoF
Member
Some say an apology is not needed. Perhaps. But I say Filipinos in authority should admit that they bungled things, and actually part of that bungling owes itself to corruption (such as protecting Puno, who earlier admitted to corruption). So if we kowtow to those who say an apology is not needed, Aquino can certainly admit failings on the Filipino side this without apology. All it needs is a dropping of the “Pride” we are notorious for and the heart to say, “we have shortcomings.” Problem is, all that he did right after that infamous event happened displayed the classic… Read more »
WinterSoldier
Guest
I’m sure the Yellow propagandist goes by the name of ‘honesto’ will rustle his jimmies when he reads this: “Anybody that says Pnoy shouldn’t apologize for the slaughter of a bunch of Foreign Tourists in Manila, by a former Philippines National Police Officer, in Uniform (which the authorities never took off him after he was fired) using Police Issued Firearms (which the Authorities never took off him after he was fired) because of the Government inexcusable incompetence and bungling during the entire operation….are complete idiots! All you who equate this to the random act of a sole lunatic in China… Read more »
barbero
Guest

YIPEEEEE! honesto is proud to be Failipino!

xdarkx
Guest

Damn it, Noynoy! I wanted to go to Hong Kong again in peace! >.<

Sanzo
Guest

Sadly that’s the problem..now we the people have to pay a hefty price from that tragic incident.

Apparently, it appears not all in HK agrees to continue with this kind of problem. It also appears that their premier is continuing to throw more fuel to the fire due to his dwindling popularity among the masses there, and since it isn’t the HK we knew ever since it was given back to China…sadly they look more of a puppet to me now. 🙁

roswell
Guest

I think HK is not really asking us to apologize. I think what they really want is justice. After the bungled operation, Pnoy should have jailed tulfo and rogas for “crossing the line”. They should have taken out Lim as mayor and gave Puno some sort of a sanction, they should have taken out the whole police force…pNoy should have admitted himself in a mental ward for giving that awfully awful smirk during inspection…

Sanzo
Guest

I get the feeling that this country isn’t the best place to ask for something called ‘justice’. 🙁

Kemeo
Guest

Wait anong nangyari doon sa mga tao pinadala ni Erap? I thought all was good already.

Sanzo
Guest
I smell backfire, reading the links I posted here which was a link to the SCMP, it seems that some of the officials may have not liked the gesture or the intent. Because they knew about what happened to Erap in the past, they may have judged him according to that..because they wouldn’t be reacting like this if they were satisfied with what he did. Try reading that Kemeo, it seems the politicians in Hong Kong are kind of in the same hot water as the politicians in the Philippines and they both have dwindling positive ratings from the people… Read more »
Bum Aquino
Guest

The idiots: Pinoy Aquino was hiding in a closet in Malacanang. Alfredo Lim was feasting in the Emerald Restaurant. The SWAT Team tried to enter the door of the bus.
A lone SWAT sniper with night vision or heat scanner vision would had killed the insane policeman.
The U.S. Navy Team seal rescued the Captain of a hijacked ship that way. By killing the hostage takers (Somali Pirates).

eachhisown
Guest
“There was lack of equipment on the part of Manila SWAT to handle the situation.” There’s always lack of equipment in every Philippines Government agency. From Political leaders to agency officials down to almost every government employee is a thief and an arrogant liar. There’s an evil kind of spirit that possesses almost every person that is employed by the Philippine government whether directly or indirectly. Almost everyone of them have the same facial and gesture aura that by just looking at their faces one could almost be certain that the person he’s looking at is a government personnel. They… Read more »
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