The status of the West Philippine Sea dispute now depends on the result of the elections in the United States

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Incoming President Rodrigo Duterte has a lot to clean up after President BS Aquino leaves office this June 30. Besides traffic, political corruption, the Mindanao problem, power problems and typhoon rehabilitations, the incoming administration has a lot of problems to fix. And that includes Aquino’s failed foreign policy towards China.

What Aquino did was take an aggressive and hostile approach towards the Chinese. He issued multiple press releases, and even spoke out against China during international conferences. This normally works, but China did not buy Aquino’s bluffing. They knew that Aquino could not back up his words. The Chinese government saw Aquino for what he was — a weak, incompetent paper tiger.

It did not help that Aquino’s American contemporary, President Barack Obama, was also perceived by China as a weak and incompetent leader. It’s almost as if the Chinese did not respect those two. In fact, Obama has recently been overthrown by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a ranking of the world’s most powerful people. It also does not help that the US is trillions of dollars in debt to China. While I do not believe that Obama is weak, perceptions are just as strong as facts. What mattered was how the Chinese viewed him.

While China was already beginning to build up its military in the early 2000s, they did not resort to actions such as taking islands in Philippine territory when Gloria Macapagal Arroyo was President and when George W. Bush was US President. It rests upon the Philippines and the United States to balance against China’s growth in the Pacific region. But China will just keep pushing through until both countries have strong leaders.

The election of Rodrigo Duterte to the presidency is a step forward. So far, he has shown qualities of a strong leader. When he requested a few weeks ago that Filipinos be allowed to fish in the disputed areas, the Chinese acceded. Even though he has yet to assume office, China already respects Duterte, very much unlike the way they regard the incumbent.

What would happen next would also depend on who the United States elects as its next President. There is no reason to feel enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton because she will just continue Obama’s foreign policy, the legacy of which is an unstable Iraq and Libya, a rising China, and a nuclear Iran. Personally, I am rooting for a Republican victory this November. While inexperienced in politics, Donald Trump has shown strong leadership qualities and has strategies to counter China economically. I feel like his business experience can help gut China without having to.

I believe that the Philippines must be able to defend itself without US help. We must build our military in order to defend our archipelago against Chinese intrusion. Also, I believe Duterte has to start pursuing an independent foreign policy. But, it is imperative that we work with the United States and other Pacific nations in order to cut China’s legs from underneath.

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Jerry Lynch
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The only comment I’m going to make about your support for Trump is to attach this url and hope the voters of America do not think the same way you do in November. https://newrepublic.com/article/134329/american-horror-story

Jim DiGriz
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If Trump is elected, we are one step closer to the end of the world.

That guy is insane!

Aeta
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The status of the West Failippine Sea dispute depends on how China–and the world–sees the Fliptards as a unified people, who are ready to put their differences aside to fight both foreign and local enemies for the good of their country; or, a bunch of primitive morons running around destroying each other and compromising their country and people by being a “sellout.” If Fliptards want the respect, empathy, and support of the United States and the world, they need to start applying those traits on themselves first; and stop acting like helpless assholes waiting for their next handouts.

Robert Haighton
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When I type “West Philippine Sea” in the Wikipedia search box, I am redirected to “South China Sea”. Now, I am confused about what the official name is.

Jerry Lynch
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Good lord man, learn something about how the world works. The world usually has a universally recognized name for bodies of water, but often other countries have their own local name for it and the “West Philippine Sea/South China Sea” is not alone in that respect. The “Sea of Japan” is known in Korea as “The East Sea” and if you were not simply being argumentative for the sake of arguing, you would know such things.

Aeta
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Jerry Lynch,

“Good lord man, learn something about how the world works….and if you were not simply being argumentative for the sake of arguing, you would know such things.”

That what I’ve been trying to tell Robert Haighton from the get-go. He’s either deliberately trying to catch the baseball out in left field while I’m batting it to the right, or, he went out to lunch for a hotdog and drink and never came back.

Aeta

Jerry Lynch
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Aeta, I’m pretty much known for being a very loud critic of The Philippines and for finding very little to like about it in the 12 years I’ve lived here, but when I make a criticism I try to also offer some kind of solution or behavioral change that could affect things positively here.

Mr. Haighton seems to just want to argue and did NOT even respond to my actual comments. He attacked the messenger for an unrelated perception while totally ignoring the message.

Aeta
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Jerry Lynch, I’m the same way on how I feel about the Philippines. The people here have a poor grasp of reality, in sore denial whenever you point out their mistakes, and will talk themselves out of a viable solutions to their problems. This is why I think Robert Haighton keeps coming back to this site, and asking for more punishments from us for his unrealistic perception of the country and its people; he and the Filipinos have something in common. Delusions on how they want to see things, and not what it really is, without doing anything about it.… Read more »
Robert Haighton
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When I type “West Philippine Sea” in the Wikipedia search box, I am redirected to “South China Sea”. Google Maps also uses the name South China Sea.

Now, I am confused about what the official name is.

(Apologies for the almost double post)

Dusk
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Robert,

The internationally accepted name for that sea is “South China Sea”. The Philippines just recently renamed that to West Philippines Sea because they had a claim on it.

Mostly their EEZ, but since there’s this fad of putting military and civilian personnel on those tiny shoals then it’s like acquiring new territories. It is so messed up that no one really knows what’s gonna happen next.

marius
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Unfortunately, the Chinese (like the Americans) still haven’t figured out how to live within their own footprint. When a government can’t or won’t understand that the whole point of having national borders and sovereignty is to delineate Mine and Thine, everyone else has a big problem. Unfortunately, the Philippines has no military option. How is a third-world country going to build a Navy capable of covering 7000 scattered islands? We can’t even build a functioning telephone system. So we could do worse than set an example. The place is so overcrowded it has to send a good fraction of its… Read more »
Aeta
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The Chinese had never laughed at Marcos; he kept Chinese influence at bay by not allowing their “Bamboo Network” to spread across the country. It was only after 1986 did the Chinese influence started spreading across the nation. Initially, by bribing their way into our politicians pockets; secondly, by investing heavily into our economy and destroying our cottage industries; and lastly, by blinding us with the glitters of an urbanized lifestyle full of shopping malls, condominiums, and automobiles.

marius
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Ah, sorry, that was ” helpless assholes waiting for their next handouts.”.

Same difference 🙂

marius
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Aeta, the only way Filipinos are going to beat the Chinese is by becoming better than them. As you said above, a good start would be to stop acting like whinging assholes. If someone does nothing but complain about how unfairly they’re being treated, those who bully them respect them less, not more.

Aeta
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Marius, I’m not sure what you mean by becoming better than the “Chekwas.” I’m just trying get these motherfucking Fliptards to start thinking and behaving like a nation instead of as individual opportunists, who care more about titles and status in order to outshine one another. Being united is the basic ingredient of a strong nation, regardless of its size. “Remember the Spartans” who fought against a much more powerful Persian army and won because they relied more on each other’s strength as much as on their individual skills? It was only after they’ve allowed themselves to be deluded by… Read more »
Robert Haighton
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Dear Aeta, “We Fliptards should learn from the story of the Spartans, by appreciating and preserving our simple way of life instead of trying to emulate other more advanced culture before we’re ready, just so we can feel more socially sophisticated and appear as “world class” material.” Why wait? Why dont YOU start yourself trying to emulate other more advanced cultures; be more socially sophisticated and BE (not appear) more world class material. Why wait? I dont think you are still 12 years young today. So you can make that change today for yourself! You have evrything covered, you know… Read more »
Jin
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Trying to regress into spear chuckers so as to go toe to toe with China’s military might is not the way to go.

Aeta
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jin, Who said anything about chucking spears at China’s military might? Although spear chucking may be the only option Fliptards will have left once they’ve used up their limited and outdated military arsenals against the Chinese. The Fliptards will have no option but to take up to the mountains and jungles and resort to guerilla warfare. That’s not regressing; it’s going back to the basics of a military strategy of not going up against a much superior force that’ll guarantee defeat. A smaller and weaker force has to use the escape, evade, and harass tactics in order to fight another… Read more »
Jin
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Orrrr how about having a well maintained, modernized military so as to show China that the Philippines isn’t a complete doormat that doesn’t have to hide behind Uncle Sam’s coattails when things don’t go their way? You still fulfill the same purpose while not having to stoop to the level of mountain bandit tactics like what the Taliban uses on a regular basis.

Aeta
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jin, I’m not going to speculate nor cry over what the Failippine armed forces could have been or should have been. What the Chekwa-loving Yellow Party should have done to strengthen their civil defense in the last 30 years is not going to happen now. Instead, what the Yellow Party has done is softened the grounds for the Chekwas to walk through our front door by allowing their “Bamboo Network” to manipulate our politicians, monopolize our economy, and create dissension among our military infrastructure. This fiasco out in South China Sea is nothing more than just icing to the cake.… Read more »
Jin
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Chekwas? Bamboo Network? Man, ease up on the conspiracy kool-aid. Your arguments are starting to sound like those of a far right wing nut.

If there’s one skill authoritarian dictators have been mighty good at is showing deterrence towards its aggressors, but at the cost of so much more. Giving too much credit on Marcos is rather concerning.

Aeta
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jin, You want me to ease up on the truth? I might as well retract everything I’ve said about the “Bamboo Network,” and the collaboration between the “Checkwas” and Yellow Party, and just accept your theory that the Fliptards fucked up their own country all by themselves without any help from outside forces. Then we’ll see how far your theory gets us. Giving Marcos too much credit should be a lot lesser concern, than declaring the Yellow Party innocent of having collaborated with the Chekwas in fleecing the country for the past 30 years; compelling the population to flee the… Read more »
Jin
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You talk in extremes that’s the issue. Brow-beating “Fliptards” every post you write won’t matter no matter how much you pepper the truth with it. You also like to use the “us vs. them” coercion a lot, trying to lump in moderates as thinly veiled sympathizers to your enemies. Most people do not respond well to acerbic feedback so if anything, nothing is being accomplished by your aggression. I can see you’re frustrated, but spewing bigoted rhetoric only serves to undermine your position and dissuades like minded people who agree with your ideas. I’m not telling you to be more… Read more »
Aeta
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jin, Man, this whole site is about talking in extreme. If you can’t handle the brutal truth delivered in the most brutal manner then you shouldn’t be here. I’m not trying to win any political platform on this site and be expected to tailor what I say so it won’t offend anybody. I just “call a spade a spade” in the most eloquent way I know how to get my point across—even if it means stepping on few toes to do it. If you can’t handle what I say, or what anyone say for that matter, then you shouldn’t engage… Read more »
Jin
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Let me leave you with this: Aren’t you a part of the problem because you let the Philippines turn into this state. By your unforgiving logic, it should be.

And please, I came here not to expect a Pinoy version of Stormfront so don’t make it out like one.

Aeta
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jin, I’ve never said I wasn’t a part of the problem. The fact that I’m a Fliptard—by blood and decree–already quantifies me as being a contributor to the “fucked-up-ness” of this country. And if you’re a Fliptard, too, then you’re also a member of the “Mickey Mouse Club.” I’m not condemning anybody in my writing; therefore, being forgiving—or unforgiving—is not necessary on my part. I’m also not trying to start a “Right Wing” or a “neo-Nazi”-style movement that you’ve accused me of. I’m merely stating a fact that Fliptards, Chekwas, and all the “fuckers” who have something to do with… Read more »
d_forsaken
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Foreign policy is a matter of costs and benefits, not for anything else in between. International politics, like all politics, is a struggle for power.

Aeta
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Robert,

If you’ve read my first paragraph, you’ll realize that we Fliptards are still primitively immature to tackle the feat of emulating or competing against t more advanced nations. We can’t even get past our tribal differences of varied dialects, customs, and traditions to behave as a cohesive nation, not to mention going up toe-to-toe with other countries. Nope, unless we arrogant and selfish Fliptards stop acting as individual opportunists, we won’t stand a chance of going up against other countries; we’re just too busy trying to outshine and destroy one another.

Aeta

Robert Haighton
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Dear Aeta,
I didnt use the word WE, I used the word YOU (singular). So I was and am refering to you personally as individual human being; as single, one entity.

Aeta
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Dear Robert,

If anyone knows how my people think as Fliptards, I think I do. So my use of “We” to refer to my people will be different from your use of ” You” to refer to me or my people. It comes with the territory, sort to speak. It’s the same way when we talk about your country and people. You’ll be the expert and I the novice.

Aeta

Robert Haighton
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Dear Aeta, be that pioneer, be that first person to make that change. And many will follow you. That is how things start to change. If we all wait for that first person to make a move, then eventually we all stay seated on our asses. And eventually nothing will change. This is a very well known psychological phenemenom: a driver is losing power over his steering wheel and ends up in a canal, or river. Many people gather around that spot and nobody is moving an inch thinking that the next person next to me will tyake the initiative… Read more »
Aeta
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Dear Robert,

I have been initiating that change by giving myself, every Fliptard I meet, and every writers and commenters on this blog the “Fuck You” approach. That “fuck you, there is nothing to be proud of on our individual goals and achievements as long as the Failippines and its people are suffering.”

Haven’t you noticed my colorful signature approach in all of my writings? I just hope my moronic people–and their foreign affiliates–will take my blatant approach to heart and start applying it in their own lives, by being less arrogant and selfish, for the good of the country and everyone.

Aeta

Robert Haighton
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“I’m just trying get these motherfucking Fliptards to start thinking and behaving like a nation instead of as individual opportunists, who care more about titles and status in order to outshine one another.”

That is NOT what I mean. Stop lecturing others. Go your own way. Walk your own path to success and laugh at all those others.

Aeta
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Dear Robert, No one is lecturing anybody here. If anything, we’re all here–at least I know I am– to give everyone a wake up call on the reality of all the stupidity going on in the Failippines and among Fliptards. I didn’t come from La-La-Land where everyone believes that we’ll all live happily ever after as long as we keep praying and hoping for a brighter tomorrow. Well…shit…that tomorrow came and gone and there’s still no light at the end of the tunnel, while everyone dies of suffocation from blowing smoke into each other’s asses. If that’s what you want… Read more »
Jim DiGriz
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I’m not from La-La land either. Reality is something that people here can’t grasp. They rather believe in mermaids, the lolo in the sky and winning the lottery.

I hear you Aeta, I really do!

Change here can only come through brutal force.

Aeta
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Thanks, Jim DiGriz. It’s good to know that there’s someone else on this blog who has a good grasp of reality and not afraid to “call a spade a spade.”

I’m a Fliptard and I’m not afraid to say that we’re a fucked up bunch.

You’re right. What my people need is to be punched in the face and kicked in the ass, to knock us off whatever pedestals we’ve put ourselves on.

Perhaps by then we’ll all start falling in line and start acting like one nation instead of as individual assholes.

Robert Haighton
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Dear Aeta, (apologies for late reply/response) I have no delusions. I only wish your country would/will fare better. I also realize and also am aware that moving tons of people at the same time is an impossible task. So we have to start with the individual (the ego, if you will). Humbly, I think I know a few things about your country and all I see is that they dont work (at all). For instance – the collectivistic approach. But all I read – mainly here – is that everybody wants to be a ‘good’ person by helping the needy… Read more »
Aeta
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Dear Robert,

“Unfortunetely, in most cases I see you bashing and nagging about those people who are less skilled than you and/or less in behavior/mindset compared to you.”

You’ve just answered your own statement. Dude, I’m getting tired (again) of going around in circle trying to explain things to you, because you’ll always find a way to circumvent what I said.

You sound like a driver behind the wheel of a vehicle with four flat tires, thinking he can keep driving and get to his destination on time.

Aeta

marius
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Aeta, I think you missed Robert’s point. There’s no point in only telling Filipinos they’re all a bunch of losers. I’m guilty of going off on those rants from time to time, but you still have to offer some alternative. The Filipino has no imagination whatsoever. If you tell him: “stop being an asshole and stop waiting for handouts”, he’ll scratch his head and say: “so what should I do instead?”. Realise that the reason he acts like a helpless asshole is this: he’s been taught that it’s right and proper, by parents, teachers, and peers. He’s probably never seen… Read more »
staser
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As I stated in a previous topic, the Filipino gene pool was not blessed with the gifts of imagination, innovation, or inspiration. Being a servant is actually the natural position of the Filipino and the whole country needs to admit this. They must always look to outside sources for direction and guidance in order to get anywhere. My own development and progress to think, behave, and act on a higher cultured plane came as a result of being in the constant company of people from Europe, the Near East, and the Americas. These are the people I learned from. None… Read more »
Aeta
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marius, I didn’t miss Robert’s point. There is a very valid point of telling Fliptards “they’re a bunch of losers,” to let them know that the whole world have their numbers—sort to speak—and that their continued blowing smoke up everybody’s asses is way past being tiresome and has already reached the point of banality. Why do you think we’re all here on GRP? It certainly not to praise nor ignore the stupid attitude and behavior of our corrupt politicians, but to encompass these oligarchs’ country-destructive ways to be a direct reflection of our corrupt culture and the equally corrupt people… Read more »
543Hyden007Toro999.99
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543Hyden007Toro999.99
China is an economic power. It is also building its military power. It is grabbing Philippine territories; this is the problem. It is a replay of Nazi Germany’s Adolf Hitler expansion of Nazi Germany, during World War II. Hitler took a part of Poland; then swallowed Czechoslovakia. Then, invaded the whole Poland, itself. And on to the whole Europe, unto Soviet Union… We have a mutual defense treaty with the U.S. However, we cannot depend on this treaty, in the event of PRE-EMPTIVE strike by the Chinese. Anyway, they are already in the Philippines. Aquino’s CHEKWAs are now controlling the… Read more »
Aeta
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543Hyden007Toro999.99,

I hear you, brother.

Aeta

Wrong
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As We Speak Now The Us Navy Is Challenging China’s Claim making China worried and angry but cant really engage or harm The Navy because if that happen it puts China’s economic interest at stake too and everybody for that matter.And Please The Philippines Military is in the current state of modernization and we dont depend on that much as we’ve limited their presence right here and Say what you will about The Americans but they’re doing their part Challenging The China and helping Our Military play Catch Up Right Now.And About The Middle East yes you’re right Their National… Read more »
Jin
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>It rests upon Japan and South Korea and the United States to balance against China’s growth in the Pacific region.

FTFY Philippines do not have the political or economical clout to influence the region, as evidenced by their outdated military. The best they could do is to bring back their maids out of Hong Kong.

Dusk
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The Philippines has always been a weak state. Now it is sandwich between two rival global powers, the decades old pacific power (US) and the rising ancient central kingdom (China).

The leaders of this country should dread carefully on making any decisions regarding the issue. Because either way the people always suffer one way or the other. They must be smart enough not to cause to much tension or the country will be torn apart, especially because this country doesn’t have anything to say on the matter or they have but no one will take them seriously.

zaxx
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Military power comparison results for Philippines vs. China Submarines: PH 0 vs. China 68 Destroyers: PH 0 vs. China 32 Frigates: PH 3 vs China 48 We would not have become this pathetic if not for the downward spiral that started when we chose to install a clueless Yellow housewife. About those pieces of rocks beyond our shores: If you can’t defend it, you can’t claim it. Du30’s best option is to appease the dragon. It’s good enough if we can at least have our fishermen still make a living near our area. We can’t even manage our backyard (Sulu… Read more »
Jin
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It’s also because the PH government loves to do thing with mediocrity by being CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP!

If all they can muster are tiny trainers bought from South Korea and decommissioned Cutters and Corvette giveaways from the US and allies, the Philippines is in a whole lotta trouble.

zaxx
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PH does not spend much on defense. Well maybe the people and what they stand for are not worth defending. Dr. Wilson: Only from a long-range point of view, of developing technology. Otherwise, it has to do with: Are we good painters, good sculptors, great poets? I mean all the things that we really venerate and honor in our country and are patriotic about. In that sense, this new knowledge has all to do with honor and country but it has nothing to do directly with defending our country except to help make it worth defending. Robert Wilson – on… Read more »
Greg
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For those who have criticized Trump and said he is insane, what is the rational of your thinking? Trump is insane? It was Bush who started military conflict in Iraq; Trump was against it. Bush went into Afghanistan with no objective; no military (including the Russians) has ever won there. Hillary Clinton was involved in the destruction of Lybia and Syria; she bragged about Gaddafi being killed; now terrorists in Lybia are raping and slaughtering people. Read about the Yazidi Christian girls in Syria being held as sex slaves, beaten, burned and raped. According to at least one girl’s testimony,… Read more »
Jin
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The deal about Trump is he likes to say one thing and then another to rile up the stewing anger Americans have kept for years now. His foreign policies are frankly all over the place. The closest one could categorize him would be a neo isolationist by wanting NATO and allies to “do its part” in paying up the defense bills. But we all know at the end of the day he is a populist pundit who will say anything in order to get votes. The rest of the 2016 candidacy list doesn’t look so appealing (Hillary will be Obama… Read more »
Greg
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Jin,

You are correct, Trump is a flip-flopper; no doubt.

Greg
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Jin,

You’re correct, Trump is a flip-flopper.

Jim DiGriz
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First, Donald “Nostradumbass” Trump, had and has no special powers to foresee the future. His objecting to the Iraq war is all based on throwaway comments he made ONE year after the fighting had started. In September 2002 Howard Stern asked Trump if he supports invading Iraq. Trump answered. “Yeah, I guess so. You know, I wish it was, I wish the first time it was done correctly.” In March 2003 Trump said the war “looks like a tremendously success from a military standpoint,” and he predicted the market will “go up like a rocket” after the war. By the… Read more »
Jin
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Who pissed in your cereal? I was just providing a counterpoint and you proceed to dogpile on me. So much for this intellectual discourse.

Jim DiGriz
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Obviously it was meant for Greg, not for you. Not familiar with the posting layout?

Greg
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Jim, You are a knee-jerk, leftist moron, who probably supports the corrupt liar, Clinton. I bet you like Obama too, right? You appear to have reading comprehension problems. You obviously did not read my post. I said that I am not a fan of Trump. He is saying things that are pissing off bad people( such as Communists) because of a nationalist viewpoint, which is unheard of. Which other candidate mentioned the Saudis as possibly being involved in 911? There is nothing more important that a U.S. presidential candidate could say, in addition to speaking out against radical Islam. Just… Read more »
Jim DiGriz
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Thanks for wasting your time.

Jerry Lynch
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The “FOX News argument is a valid one.

Jin
Guest

Oh, that was directed at Greg. Still, point still stands that hurling insults and coming off as a madman does not improve your argument.

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