The #Philippines is a nation of starstruck ignoramuses

[The following is an article by Star columnist Don Pedero published in The Philippine Star 29 October 2000 and also featured in Get Real Philippines on the same year.]

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Last July 23, I wrote about Nasty (short for Anastacio), a balikbayan from Los Angeles, who, while vacationing in Manila, had nothing to say but negative comments about the Philippines and the Filipinos. The article elicited a deluge of comments from our readers. Though some agreed with his curt observations, most were enraged at the repulsive way he acted and whined.

For me, he was the classic epitome of the “crow perched on a carabao,” thinking and acting nauseatingly superior just because he has become an American citizen, inequitably comparing everything here to how they are in the first world. I was particularly irked by his repulsive “know it all” attitude and peeved no end by his irritating Waray-American twang.

Those who have not read that article may access philstar.com and click archives, then select July 23 and click Lifestyle. The article is entitled “Little Brown Americans.” As a backgrounder, here is an excerpt:

The next day, I took them on a little city tour and accompanied them to do extra shopping at the duty-free shop. They were to leave two days later for their respective provinces (Randy is from Pampanga, Nasty, from Samar).

“God, ang dilem-dilem naman ditow (it is so dark here)!” screamed Nasty in his characteristic Taglish slang, “At ang inet-inet pa (and so warm)!”

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Manila's monstrous traffic jams choke the life out of the Philippines' premiere city.
Manila’s monstrous traffic jams choke the life out of the Philippines’ premiere city.
All throughout the day, Nasty complained about everything. He griped that all Filipinos he encountered were dense and inefficient (I hope that didn’t include me!); that the traffic was horrendous and drivers “drove like they were late for their funerals”; that the pollution from the smoke-belching vehicles was irritating his dainty, surgically-pinched nose.

He was disgusted that water closets didn’t work; horrified that there was no toilet paper in public toilets (“God, how do you people do it?” he bewailed); petrified by street children begging while soaking wet in the rain (“Where are the parents of these kids?” he nagged).

He moaned about the proliferation of slums, people crossing the superhighways (“There should be underground or overhead walkways for pedestrians!” he demanded), the potholes on the streets, the disgusting garbage and filth all over the city, and the annoying floods! And all these he observed in just one day!

Weeks after the publication of the article, I took Nasty’s silence to mean that of contempt and anger. I must admit that I didn’t care because I was really turned off by his arrogance. The good news is, Nasty has finally decided to break his silence and give us his side, loaded with a big piece of his mind. The bad news is, he hits more sensitive chords and it stings.

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Nasty’s E-Mail
Dear Dero,

My Zen master says, “Never fight fire with fire.” So, I sat in a lotus position, imbibed the ethereal qualities of cool mountain water and stoically resisted the temptation of answering back to defend myself in rebuttal of your article. I kept quiet while you and your readers had a charlatan holiday, dissecting and fanning sarcasm on my every comment about your country and your people.

I am not mad at you for writing that piece. I was never upset at any point, even after your readers from all over the world e-mailed in their two-cents’ worth. In fact, I found it rather amusing and carnival-like.

I even felt happy that people still came to the defense of your Philippines!

If you noticed, I now refer to the Philippines and Filipinos as your country and your people. Every time I went back there for vacation, my Filipino-ness always took the better of me (blame those damn green mangoes smothered with bagoong!) and made me forget that I am, in all reality, what you aptly called a “Little Brown American.” I have come to terms with my own identity- I am, after all, an American citizen carrying an American passport!

What precipitated my quick decision to sever my ties with your country (aside from your ***** of an article) were the Abu Sayyaf abductions (que barbaridad!), the Payatas-like downslide of the peso (eat your hearts out, I earn sweet American dollars!), the “devoid of conscience” graft and corruption in your government (this has gone on for the longest time-how shameful!), and lately, the stupid “Juetengate” and juicy but enraging “Boracay” mansion gossips. With all these, who would be proud to be a Filipino? Besides, to tell you frankly, those Erap jokes are no longer funny- they are passé and leave a bad taste in the mouth and heart. No Apology If I sounded brash and insensitive with the way I threw my comments, well, I cannot do any-thing about that because that is the way I am, and I offer no apology. Here, in America, you have to tell it like it is or you’ll never be taken seriously. I have learned to drop my “Pinoy sugarcoating” because out here, you get nothing done if you are meek and sweet and pa-api. Hindi puwede mag-Anita Linda dito!

Filipinos are reminded every now and then of their slobbery whenever monsoon floods strike.
Filipinos are reminded every now and then of their slobbery whenever monsoon floods strike.
When I commented about your pollution, street children mendicants, slums,potholes, toilets that don’t work, garbage, floods, and most of all, the Pinoys’ chronic lack of discipline, I was merely putting into words what I saw. I can’t blame your being blind about your country’s situation.

My Zen master says, “One cannot easily see the dirt in one’s eye.” I am sure though that you are aware of those sordid details, but have grown accustomed to them (like most Manileños have). All the complaints I aired may have hurt your pride but what I wanted you to realize is this: The things I pointed out are all symptoms of a failing, falling nation!

Suffering A National Karma?

Could yours be a country cursed with a huge national karmic debt? It could be payback time, you know. Look back into your history, look deep inside your hearts-what could you have done as a nation to deserve this fiasco you are in today?

What you are faced with didn’t just happen overnight-it developed and grew into a monster in the course of time. Deeply imbedded in the psyche of the Filipino is the amalgamation of the characters and events that have impacted your lives – Dona Victorina, Dona Concepcion, poor Sisa as well the other hilarious and tragic characters of Dr. Jose Rizal… Stonehill…the notorious gangsters immortalized by your Filipino movies like Asiong Salonga (hmmm!), et al…the killers in your (I thought they’d never end!) massacre movies…those cheap, appalling titles of your movies…those staged “religious miracles” that your naive masses believed…family men with pushy queridas (mistresses)…your crooked politicians, undependable police officers and greedy customs collectors…your bribe-hungry court judges…Imeldific, gloriously smiling and crying at the same time, bejeweled. (How very Fellini!)

Filipino showbiz politicians are elected to office not because of who they are in real life.
Filipino showbiz politicians are elected to office not because of who they are in real life.
What you are is the sum total of your history, your heritage and culture,your education, the crap that your press sensationalizes, the bad icons that your movies glorify, the artificial values your advertising extols, the bad examples your leaders and role models project. What you feed your country’s mind is what it becomes. You have become the ugly monster that you’ve created. You are now crying all the tears your sickeningly sentimental movies wailed out for years and years! Your Biggest Fault If there is one thing that comes to mind, I think your biggest fault would be your individual greed. “Ako muna!” seems to be the national mantra. The trouble is, very few people think for the common good in a deplorable “to each his own kurakot” festival. Coupled with your crab mentality of pushing down others, this can be fatal. You think barangay, not national. Hello, everybody else around the world is thinking global! Europe is unshackling her national boundaries while you are building fences around your nipa huts.

Do yourselves a favor and look at your nation as a ship. All of you are in it and it is sinking! Realize your oneness-what hurts your brother hurts you, too. Think about the future of your children and the succeeding generations, and do something about it quick before your poor little banca plunges forever into the irretrievable depths of despair.

Star-Struck Nation

You are a nation of star-struck ignoramuses. You are easily awed by your movie stars who are usually nothing but uneducated, aquiline-nosed and light-skinned ******** picked up from some gutter somewhere. I have seen what these artistas illusionadas can get away with. They just flash their capped-tooth smiles and policemen let them get away with traffic violations; they bat their false eyelashes and customs officers impose no duty on their suspicious balikbayan boxes.

President BS Aquino managed to find time in his 'busy' schedule to grace the royal wedding of Dingdong Dantes and Marian Rivera.
President BS Aquino managed to find time in his ‘busy’ schedule to grace the royal wedding of Dingdong Dantes and Marian Rivera.
Worst of all, with the Filipino movie industry taking a nosedive, hordes of actors and show personalities went into politics. It is, as they say, the next best “racket”-there is more money to be made in the politicking business than in show business! (And what is this I hear that in the coming elections, more are jumping into the arena? Mag-hara-kiri na kayo!) How can you expect these comedians and actors, who only know how to take directions from their directors, to direct your nation? For them,politics will just be an “act”. No big surprise here, for they are mere actors with no original scripts to speak, no original visions to share. So what can you expect but a government that is a comedy of errors. Serves you and your star- struck nation right!

My Zen master says, “Give unto Caesar what is due to Caesar, but keep Charlie Chaplin on the silver screen to make us laugh.” To survive, you must teach your citizenry to say no to three things – no to drugs, no to stealing and graft and corruption, and no to artistas in politics. I hope you’ve learned your lesson by now. (Yours is the only country where Mexican soap stars are received like royalty in the presidential palace. How shoddy! God forbid-Fernando Carrillo might end up being your next president. At least he has great abs and doesn’t wobble like a penguin when he walks!)

For those artistas who honestly believe that they can make a positive difference in the Filipino masses’ life, they must first study law, business and public administration, and immerse themselves in the life and passion of Mother Teresa. Politics is not an art for dilettante artistas to dabble in. It is called “Political Science,” hello?!

Educate Your Masses

Educate the masses – especially your electorate. What you need is an intelligent vote aside from, of course, intelligent candidates. The University of San Carlos in Cebu City, founded in 1595, and the University of Santo Tomas in Manila, established in 1611, are the oldest universities in Asia, and are even older than Harvard. But the standard of Pinoy education has deteriorated so much that the Philippines ranks among the poorest in the educational hierarchy of Asia.

The next generation of Filipinos is being misguided and mis-educated by their leaders and elders.
The next generation of Filipinos is being misguided and mis-educated by their leaders and elders.
Education, education, education-that’s what you need in this age of information, information, information.

If all your social, religious and political sectors don’t sit down now and decide to take the Right Way, the Philippines and your children’s children will be grand losers in the worldwide rush to the future. Education is one sure way to salvation. Teach what is right, good, beautiful and beneficial.

Downplay all negativity if you cannot eliminate it altogether.

The Ideal President

I’ve got news for you. (As if you didn’t already know.) No matter whom you put up there as your leader or president, it will be the same banana. Even a holy man can turn into another J. E. (Judas Escariot) for a few pieces of silver. Kumpares, alalays, relatives and cronies will encrust like flies and maggots on his cordon sanitaire. And it will be the same despicable “Sa amin na ‘to!” hullabaloo all over again.

Take an advice from Aling Epang: “Pumili ng matanda, mayaman, mabait, at madaling mamatay.” Get a president who is old – so that he is full of wisdom, rich – so he won’t need to steal more money, goodhearted – so he will render heartfelt service to his people, and is in the sunset of his life – so that he will think of nothing but gaining good points to present when he meets his Creator. And may I add: At iisa lang ang pamilya! This is, of course, asking for the moon. Just pray fervently for an intelligent leader with a pure heart who genuinely loves the common tao!

Magpakatotoo Kayo! Wake up and look at the real you. Enough with looking at your reflection in glorious, self-embellishing mirrors. The tropical sun can play tricks, you know. Do not wait for darkness to fall before you take that much-needed long, hard look at your real situation. Magpakatotoo kayo, ano? This isn’t a wake-up call-it is the final alarm!

Save the ship while you still can. Don’t wait till your people have no more dreams left to hang on to, no more hope to sustain their broken spirits. I came home, spent my penny-pinched savings so that even in the minutest way I could help your bruised economy. Your politicians sit on their fat, farting butts and get balatos (kuno!) in the millions. Receivers are as guilty as the givers. Now, tell me, who is really nasty?

I Have Made My Decision; So Should You.

My Zen master says, “Life is all about decisions, not choices.” I have made a decision which I know will be very hard for me to keep- You will never hear from me again (not in this vein) and I will not even think of visiting or buwisiting your Manila ever. This is my way of letting you know that I have given up on you. Bahala na kayo! Only you can help yourselves because at the stage you are in, nobody would want to help you. My Zen master says, “You have to fall to learn to rise again.” How much lower do you want to go?

Philippine media played a huge role in the bungled handling of the 2010 Mendoza hostage crisis which resulted in the death of 9 Hong Kong tourists.
Philippine media played a huge role in the bungled handling of the 2010 Mendoza hostage crisis which resulted in the death of 9 Hong Kong tourists.
Anyway, regarding the Philippines as a tourist destination, you have a lot of cleaning up and face-lifting to do before foreigners would dare go to your islands again. The Abu Sayyaf episode has done your tourism industry more damage than you could ever imagine, and it will take a long time before the world forgets. (By the way, your tourism projects are lusterless and have no global impact. If you want real business, spruce up your infrastructure and do aggressive marketing on the World Wide Web!)

Of course, I would gladly reverse my decision if someone offered me exclusive lordship over lotto, bingo, jueteng, pintakasi and the jai alai.Think about it: this will be to your advantage because I never give tong or blood commission to anyone! (If only your president used the millions he received from those gambling lords to build homes for the masses, you wouldn’t have any more squatters. Huling hirit: defrost those Marcos billions, pay off some debt, place the rest in high-yield investments, feed your hungry, and spread bounty and joy to every Filipino! Are you stupid or what? – That’s your money sucked from the blood of your people!)

I have made my decision, now make yours. I would hate for the day to come when I’d have to say, “I told you so!” Good luck! (You need it.)

An ex-Filipino,

J. Anastasio “Nasty”

P. S. My Zen master says, “Vox populi is not always the voice of God.”

P. P. S. Come over to L.A and I’ll show you a great time!

P. P. P. S. Our friend Randy says hello! We will be going to Vancouver to feast our eyes on the colors of autumn. Wish you could join us.

P. P. P. P. S. The new Miss America, Angela Perez Baraquio, is of Filipino ancestry. Dero, her parents hail from Pangasinan just like you! But keep in mind that she is an American (in case some wise fools over there claim her to be Filipino like they always do whenever someone becomes successful).

Wait for the girl to say it- don’t put words in her mouth!

P. P. P. P. P. S. Mabuhay kayo (SANA)!

P. P. P. P. P. P. S. Sa totoo lang, MAGDUSA KAYONG LAHAT! (Don’t you just love my Waray-Kano accent?) He-he-he!

– Same

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My Short Reply

Dear Nasty,

Thanks for your e-mail. I swear you sort of stole the words from right under my tongue. Now, I am utterly speechless.

Send my regards to Randy. Wishing you the best!

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Gogs
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Really????

Nest Reyes
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Truth Really Hurts and Painful To Accept..

sinister1617
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hahahaha i do agree. there’s no point living in a country where criminals live in villas protected by the government. Actors and actresses running the country. Big corporations getting away with everything. The media educating the masses. yeah I know our country is not the only one experiencing it. But who cannot say that we are the top of it. We have no sense of self respect. All we do is point fingers during an accident and claw each other to the top when it comes to being praised. It’s hard not to be angry at what he said. But… Read more »
anon
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There was a foreigner who called out Manila’s “fictional sidewalks”. Our fellow countrymen called him names.

Unfortunately, MM sidewalks are still fictional. Soon, thesame will happen in the provinces. Misplaced anger.

Jmac
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It’s true. I thought I was the only one who thought proper sidewalks are virtually non-existent in most places here. In developed countries, crumbling narrow or non-existent sidewalks wouldn’t pass without someone noticing and taking action to do something about it.

Here I’ve learned that if you even try to do something about it, you’d be made to look like a fool.

name
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invisible sidewalks + double parking combo for one way narrow roads!!!

Dick S. O'Rosary
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Is it this one?

THE ‘REPRIVATE’ OF THE PHILIPPINES | Or why Metro Manila continues to deteriorate

A quote:

“As an example, let’s talk about something simple: sidewalks, a basic public asset that facilitates mobility and the livability of a city. Except for a few areas, sidewalks are absent. Or if they do exist, they are occupied in very different ways. Streets for pedestrians are science fiction. The terrible consequence is that elders, small children, and handicapped people are excluded from the streets.”

Radz
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HOnestly speaking, he has a HUGE point.

ass usuall
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It is a huge point relayed in a non-constructive way but helpful when recognized. Unfortunately, majority who have the power will not care…

Jmac
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Stating the obvious haha.

Even priests and bishops are star-struck enough that they’d feel compelled to attend one event. For what purpose and for what end? I’mnot sure exactly.

NOTE: One event. No, it’s not an ordination. The Pope wasn’t there. There was no other sacrament other than it was a single, though glamorous, glitzy and extravagant wedding. A single wedding by (1) one couple.

janeth s. kamlian
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ENOUGH!! I am blinded by the TRUTH in what you all say! May I add, Beh, buti nga sa inyo mga kababayan ko!! you deserve it!! Filipinos are blinded by their respective religions… easily forgives/forget… bahala na ang Diyos.. in God’s time and will… no bones to speak up because one might be hurt/killed if doing the unpopular choice! Feeling helpless…

BabyBoyWhoStaysOnYourMind
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BabyBoyWhoStaysOnYourMind
I hated him…. Then loved him. I think the hate boils down to him disowning his ‘being-Filipino.’ Denying where you came from will always be deemed arrogant in the eyes of every man. The things he pointed our are the sentiments of everyone, everyday. They have even become the subjects of our everyday jokes, saying “ang problema kasi nga mga pinoy…” or “ano na bang nangyayari sa Pilipinas…” So there’s absolutely nothing new here. You’d even just laugh if you here these kinds of rants coming from your friend. So just 2 things to Nasty- 1. You’re still arrogant for… Read more »
Dax
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Being frank is totally different from being rude and crass. Apparently this “american” doesnt know the difference.

Virgina Cauton
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VERY WELL SAID!!! Any solutions?

danilo s . futalan
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I agree in all aspects,,,,,we are PILIPINOS born and raised as slaves,servants not rulers,,,uto-uto,,,lahat na salita hindi maganda iyan ay para sa PILIPINO lamang….DAMNED STUPID IGNORAMUS PILIPINOS….my heartfelt thanks to you,,,,you are a real freiend to a few.

Mary Ann Recinto
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Who is his Zen Master? Maybe he can run for President here haha.

Mark Anthony del Rosario
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Mark Anthony del Rosario

To bad someone who lives in a 1st world country doesn’t know the word respect. I guess dollars cannot buy you manners. What he calls Karma also will be with him. Poor soul.

Jesseco
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And to make things worse, this someone doesnt even belong to the 1st world country, he just happen to live there and got lucky with his citizenship and yet he has the guts to disrespect and degrade his own roots.. But yeah I agree, KARMA will suck him up…

DIO
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Son, superstitious beliefs of for the FULLY RETARD. Suck it up.

DIO
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Too bad both of you are totally missing the point.

If someone here is a poor soul, it’s BOTH of you mongrels. And your lack of intelligence is showing it.

Critical Thinker
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If Jan and Jess live in other countries, they’d be fired for not honestly dealing with whatever issues they’re facing. By the way Jan, Nasty earned his citizenship. His adopted country won’t give it to any loser. And Nasty can choose whatever team that helps him realize his potential. Why should he stick to a team this loses yet doesn’t start working on correcting those problems?

James Rocket
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Too bad someone who lives in a 3rd world country doesn’t know how to create. Go back to your cave, fool.

angie
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I am a Filipino, i live here and I love this country because we were born here, so my default, we have to love this country. But this Nasty article pretty much says all the problem that we have, but hated to be pointed out and admit to even ourselves. We are blinded because we have learned to live by these— until you see other countries doing it exactly how things should be done, and then you wonder, why on earth do Filipinos live like a dugyot and even enjoy it? sadness time….:(

Jetlag807
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As usual, some folks have missed the point. All they see (read) is “foreigner”, “arrogant”, someone who has “denied where he comes from” and so on. The guy, who appears to have spent many years in the US and has adapted well, speaks too “harsh” for Filipinos here. Well, as Americans, we tell it like it is. We don’t draw it out with useless platitudes (trite, meaningless, or prosaic statement, generally directed at quelling social, emotional, or cognitive unease), we say what we feel direct and to the point. So, if what the guy is saying is true, then what’s… Read more »
Farida Edzla
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I am a Filipino with a British passport. So let me put my British mind to test – shall I ? Mr. Nasty appears to be very happy with his American Passport ( his passport his personality ) ! His comments about the Philippines are very accurate and true. Score: 1- Nil to Philippines . So what did Uncle Sam teach him so far to become the person he is with an AMERICAN Passport ? Rejects his Filipino origin and never to visit again , moan and complain , criticise endlessly, hurt people by calling them ignoramus , pointed out… Read more »
Del
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Well said, indeed. Applause to you…

Racist
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Why so racist? So you’re saying that these situations doesn’t happen to others? I’m a Filipino. I’m a programmer and I live (Owned as a 24 yrs old) walking distance to my work( Ayala – Makati ). Not everyone suffers here in the Philippines. if you.. well.. sucks to be you. (can’t afford a decent place that u don’t need to travel?) I could say.. US = Loves justin bieber (Stupid – Bad decision making skills based on work xp.) China dumps their children (max 2 on China) to PH. (based on Chinese co-worker who got dumped here) India have… Read more »
Racist
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Remember the black guy in the US who said “I can’t breath!!” choked to death by a US police officer?

Jmac
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He struck me as arrogant and sort of a dick, but there is no indication at all that he was racist.

Actually, people who often play the race card with little basis strike me as defensive and irrational.

Critical Thinker
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Nasty is a dick, but I’d rather have him on my team rather some other guy who does nothing except do just enough so as not to rock the boat.

Jaime
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Nasty accusing us filipinos that we see everything and we do nothing, that is one of the reason why he turned his back on us, he saw everything and did nothing, (since he is no longer a filipino, he doesnt need to do anything) he saw squatters, poor children on the streets. What did he do? Nothing. Never even gave them food, or anything that might help those poor kids and their families. He is just one of those arrogant fools

Mary
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I don’t think it is being racist. He is just saying the truth, and truth sometimes hurts.

DIO
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Are you really THAT dumb or you’re just TROLLING?

Be honest. 😀

Racist
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how bout the missing planes? can we assume that the nation of stupid air pilots?

DIO
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How about you, son? Can we assume that you just went FULL RETARD with what you wrote?

Racist
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To those who are stupid enough and can’t find a job in the Philippines so they traveled abroad.

You know who you are. Maybe you did something stupid so you can’t land a job because if you’re skilled there’s no reason not to fire the existing and hire you!.

ChinoF
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You’re really living to the title of “racist.”

Jmac
Guest

Wow they can’t land job so they’re stupid. Way to call the millions of OFWs making sacrifices and languishing abroad just so they can uplift the lives of their families.

They’re the reason why you’re not out right now looking for a job and starving. The Philippine economy was able to stay afloat precisely because of the remittances and investments of those OFWs. In other words, you owe them asshole.

Go f* yourself.

DIO
Guest

If someone here is totally stupid, it’s YOU, son. And your lack of intelligence is showing it.

Musika
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You calling someone “son” and then calling him stupid?? Tsk tsk, that is showing your lack of what?? Ikaw na matalino, ask yourself kung ano na nagawa mo para mag-improve ang Pilipinas, son.

James Rocket
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Go home, nazi fascist.

lawrence
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Those who look up on themselves will be humbled.

jameboy
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There are times when the messenger matters more than the message. And in Nasty’s case, that saying is true. A self-confessed American, he pulled no punches on everything he witnessed in the country where he originated from. And he said those things obviously not to make the Filipinos feel better but to make himself feel better because he is no longer one of them. He no longer experience, feel, smell, etc. those wrong and ugly things Filipinos experienced 24/7. His message is loud and clear and true. But, alas, the messenger is no longer a part of the crowd to… Read more »
tomas
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telling an addict or someone sick that he is sick is a form of helping. it’s up to the sick person to deny or accept his condition. an outsider’s perspective is more important than like-minds jerking each other off pretending nothing’s wrong—that’s inbreeding and that is more harmful and counterproductive in the larger scheme of things.

jameboy
Guest

Who’s ‘telling’ an addict, a former addict? And when did ‘telling’ cure addiction?

Outsider’s perspective is welcome. But what kind of perspective? One that will insult and make fun of you or one that exert efforts in assisting on the resolution of a problem?

Jmac
Guest

Jameboy,

Tomas didn’t say ‘telling’ instantly cures addiction. He said it’s a form of helping.

Can’t you understand a simple English sentence or you’re just dense?

jameboy
Guest

Jmac, ‘telling’ the way Nasty did it is not a form of helping. It is practically ridiculing, insulting and degrading.

Jmac, insulting me will not make you right. Never. 🙂

tomas
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you call it “insulting”, i call it denial.=) cheers.=)

jameboy
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Denial, Tomas? Who is denying? I suggest let Jmac help you explain your self. And then you explain Jmac. 🙂

Jmac
Guest

Jameboy,

Tomas didn’t say ‘telling’ instantly cures addiction. He said it’s a form of helping.

Can’t you understand a simple English sentence or you’re just dense?

jameboy
Guest

Tomas didn’t say ‘telling’ instantly cures addiction. He said it’s a form of helping. – Jmac
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Yes, but who talked about “instantly cures addiction”?

Before you volunteer as a spokesman, talk to the person whom you like to talk for. And be ready to explain CLEAR & COMPLETELY what you are saying in a nice manner.

Jmac
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“Yes, but who talked about ‘instantly cures addiction'”

Who talked about curing? You. Tomas merely said ‘helping’ not ‘curing’.

“Before you volunteer as a spokesman, talk to the person whom you like to talk for. And be ready to explain CLEAR & COMPLETELY what you are saying in a nice manner”

Stop imitating the way I capitalize words and phrases for emphasis.

Del
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True

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