To all the moderate supporters of Mr. Duterte, those who have shown both civility and respect when supporting their chosen candidate, this article is not for you. Know well that you still have my respect even if I don’t exactly agree with you. Indeed, I certainly hope that you are correct about Mr. Duterte and that he will indeed bring about the necessary change to improve the Philippines. Unfortunately, some of your peers just had to go and wake the beast in me that was content to have slept through most of the had they at all bothered to be civil and respectful individuals. I am sorry guys, I really am, but I can no longer hold back the demon within…
So Mr. Duterte will supposedly change the country for the better with discipline, eh? Well, that’s nice to hear. It really is. Unfortunately, I can’t bring myself to believe that he will indeed bring about discipline when a good number of his followers can’t even discipline themselves and think like rational human beings. As I have seen so far, quite a few of his followers are really no different from the people who put remarkably inept individuals like President Aquino into power.
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After a bit of thought, I have come to think that is it possible that they could be the same people who actually backed President Aquino and his campaign back in 2010? Of course, I’m not saying this without proper grounds, mind you. Here are five things that I can’t help but notice about them:
They Both Revere Their Candidates As “Messiahs”
Back in 2010, I couldn’t help but notice the thousands of people who believed that Noynoy Aquino was the “chosen one” who would lead the Philippines to peace and prosperity. There were even those who claimed that he was somehow holy, being the son of a hero and a saint. To this day, his followers jealously protect him and his image, being quick to attack (both verbally and physically) those who would question his authority. Of course, those of us who are wise enough to see through his illusions know how well that turned out.
Okay, fast forward to today. There are also many who see Mr. Duterte in a similar light. Of course, like I said, there’s a chance he might actually be the real deal. Unfortunately, there are so many who see him as the cure-all panacea for the Philippines’ ills. They seem him not as a leader who will guide them towards progress but as some kind of demigod who will miraculously solve the problem of crime in the Philippines regardless of the consequences it may entail. As powerful as he can become as president, Mr. Duterte cannot change us as only we can change ourselves for the better.
They Both React Immediately Without Really Understanding Anything
When I read some of the comments used by Aquino supporters here at GRP, I can’t help but notice how they almost always attack without ever really understanding anything. More often than not, they react like rabid dogs doused with water when anything negative (real or imagined) is thrown at their “master”. How they love to snarl and snap at us writers even though they haven’t read the full article and considered its message.
The same can be said about the fanatical supporters of Mr. Duterte. You can write an article as respectful and as informative as you can but they will only see the negative aspects of it instead of its overall message. They look at the title and the sample paragraph, take it out of context and immediately assume that it is an attack against Mr. Duterte even though it’s been clearly explained that it isn’t.
They Both Say The Same Things
“Sige na, ikaw na magaling!” (Okay, you’re a know-it-all!)
“Andami mong alam!” (You know too much!)
“Siguro binayaran ka ni Binay/Poe/Roxas!” (Maybe you were paid by Binay/Poe/Roxas!)
“Bakit ano bang nagawa mo?” (Why, what are your achievements?)
“Magkano ang article na ‘to?” (How much did this article cost?)
Really, need I say more?
They Both Use The Same Tactics
Ever heard of the term “logical fallacy”? Well, you see, it’s just another form of insane troll logic. Here, it goes like this: “If you are X, you are Y” which simply boils down to the “with us or against us” concept.
Back in 2010, many of President Aquino’s followers used this tactic to gain more supporters. It was always like: “You are for President Aquino or you’re for former President Arroyo!”, “You are for President Aquino or you’re for Manny Villar!” and “You are for President Aquino or you’re for former President Estrada!” When you sided against President Aquino, his supporters were quick to imply that you must be supporting his enemies who are allegedly more corrupt than he is.
Now, fast forward to today: “If you’re against Duterte you’re pro-crime!”, “If you’re against Duterte you’re pro-Binay!”, “If you’re against Duterte you’re pro-Poe!” and: “If you’re against Duterte you’re pro-Roxas!” They fail to realize that there are actually other options out there aside from what was just mentioned. See a similar pattern with the above?
They Both Have No Respect For Other Factions
Like rowdy children, both Aquino supporters and the more fanatical members of Mr. Duterte’s faction hold on tightly to their “with us or against us” ideas mentioned above. They have utterly no respect for other people’s opinions. They see only what they want to see and hear only what they want to hear and act like their perspective is all that really matters.
They attack the messenger for disagreeing with their “god” instead of trying to understand why there are those who disagree with them. What’s worse is that they all too often resort to personal attacks instead of making an appropriate response for an otherwise relevant question. It never occurs to even reconsider what they are saying and, even for a moment, reflect on the appropriateness of their reaction.
So there, even if Mr. Duterte is the right man to become president, if the same people never make the proper changes for themselves, we are still hopelessly DOOMED…
Now, will the real supporters of Mr. Duterte stand up and prove me wrong!
I HAVE RETURNED TO LAY WASTE TO OUR ENEMIES!
36 Replies to “Noytards Vs. Dutertards: Could They Be One And The Same?”
these are the same old faces of edsa power take over of making the Philippines third world status country, it was a plot that was hatch 32 years ago, as was revealed in John Perkins book, the economic hitmen of Marcos destruction. the dreams of this yellow oligarchs Madpnoy family of mass media deception , a plan to downgrade the first world status to third world status Philippines.
Correct. Most Filipinos are not politically mature, they still have the feudal style mentality where they view their politicians as landlords and they idolize them.
The same term applies perfectly: starstruck ignoramuses.
It is expected. Every candidate has their own moronic fans. Nothing surprising there.
No different from the Makoytards Zombies.
Yes, they are all one and the same; they’re “Fliptards.”
Sadly, the majority of the supporters of the different Presidential candidates are moronic idoltards and would rather attack the person instead of presenting a decent counter argument.
For the idoltards, instead of getting defensive over any criticism, present why X is the best candidate using facts, experiences, track record, and how their policies would benefit the country without forcing people to vote for your preferred candidate, after all, there is something called ‘freedom of choice’. (Convince =/= Force)
I’ve seen better arguments in debates about Goku vs Superman, than those presented by idoltards.
Maybe Philippines should be renamed Mos Eisley, since “it is a wretched hive of scum and villany.”
Correction,di pa ako nakakita ng same ang comment ng makaduterte at aquino.lahat ng example mo ky aquino ko yan nkita.
Cguro I sound like dutertards,pro ok lng.gya din nyo makamakoy,ako din nman.
Opinion lng d2 sa dvo dami namang parang kyng sino ang mga tauhan ni duterte pro pagnalaman nya dinidisiplina naman. Opinion lng sa side ni duterte.
By the way, paano nyo ba denidepensahan c makoy?parang same lng din naman.
Yong mga noytards lumipat na ky duterte kaya cguro magkahawig mga comment nila.
Here’s the REAL reason why Dutertards is much better than Noytards. Read this website below coming from a mouth of a Davaoeno resident (w/o the BS thing):
@mrericx I’ve already read that blog circulating the social media. Unfortunately, this blog only proved that Pabebe Duterte’s supporters are not that bright. Comparing Duterte to Frodo is so stupid it gave me brain cancer. ‘Nuff said.
it’s a funny thing to see crocodiles biting each other for the top position. the one who bites better, the one gets a bigger chance of winning.
He is abrasive, but he gets the job done. It was a bit of a shock when he was all tmi last sunday, but he did say “do you want me to be president? Then you should know who your president is” …i have yet to hear poe’s explanation why she lied about her birth certificate(s) or if mar ever admitted he said “bahala na kayo sa buhay ninyo” in tacloban or if binay, well, trabaho na ng lp yan.
The problem with people is that they are stuck counting expletives and not really listening to duter te’s message. In the midst of all this noise, i have yet to hear people talk about federalism, which for me is reason enough to compel me to vote for this “hoodlum”.
And i don’t see him as a messiah. At best, a transition president who is willing to go to hell for a little piece of heaven on earth for little people like me.
Yes, i am a dutertard.
P.s. I love the pope because he makes me love Jesus more.
Interesting theory but I beg to disagree. These are not the same people. They share the same characteristics: Same butthurt, same flawed logic, etc. But they aren’t the same. These may be the very people who felt disenfranchised by those Noytards back in 2010. But they are still Filipinos and thats why they act the same. Hahaha.
The common thread I see is willingness to suspend their natural cognitive abilities just to suck up to their human god and hopefully, get dole-outs.
Very well said, but those tards will never comprehend that reasoning. Desperate people in a desperate situation succumb to a desperate solution.
These People are Blind followers, mentally retarded and have no respect for the opinions of other people.
NoyTard (YellowTards) and DuterTards now slugging each other. Let them destroy each other. It will be good for the country.
Supporting your candidate to the extreme, is the vicious vice of most of Filipino people. It is like a matter of life or death. They even go to the extreme of murdering people, just for politics.
Filipinos, as a people, seem not to thirst for knowledge. We seem to be happy with what we had learned in school.. however far we’d gone; or, from what we’d learned from family and friends.. however small and deficient that circle may be. There appears to be no hint at curiosity.. for knowing what we yet do not know. Just as perplexing is that our educators, (the guys in government as well as those in our schools), do not seem to notice.. or if they do.. do not seem to care about this glaring failure. Otherwise, our schools’ curricula might have been totally overhauled and our schools’ teaching staff, strictly rated, graded and culled. Our limited knowledge, imposes severe constraints to our capacity to think. Our incapacity to think leads to poor choices; and, our poor choices have put us in the hole we find ourselves in today. It just seems logical. What’s terrifying about this, is the fact that “ignorance begets more confidence than does intelligence”. Whoever it was who uttered these words sure knows what he is talking about. Case in point? How about the moratorium on the ‘Sultan’s’ Sabah claim.. the BBL negotiations with Malaysia as moderator.. Mamasapano.. PDAF.. DAP.. MRT/LRT.. Pnoy.. Binay… you name it, there’s a lot more.
They always say, “it’s never too late”; but, I’d say, “It’s long overdue”. We must make drastic adjustments to our schools’ curricula, the books they use, and the teachers they hire. How much longer could we stay lucky? We cannot afford to depend on ‘suerte’. In a country whose age median is below 24, it would be criminal not to “take the bull by the horns” and make the needed changes to our educational system. Let’s make the ‘turn-around’ beginning with our youth.. now.
A lot of Filipinos thirst for knowledge, but they don’t want to take the risk of getting it. Especially with the absolute power the oligarchs have over this country.
They rigged the education system to prevent the masses from becoming critical thinkers, all for the sake of protecting their dominance and interests.
There are always those radical fanatics in almost everything, not just politicians.
I say ignore those retards, let them bicker amongst each other.
Kapag hindi nakulong si Pnoy magkapareho nga iyan.
Leadership is solving problems. The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or concluded you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.
This article uses so many generalizations about the two camps it sets out to compare but what it fails to mention are its sources for its genralizations. Are we supposed to accept statements like “They both say the same things” or “They both revere their candidates as messiahs”, but is the writer talking about just the two or three people he personally knows or the few commenters he read on Facebook, or did he conduct an actual unbiased survey to arrive at these conclusions? Are we just supposed to accept his generalizations just because it is supposed to be written on a widely-read blog? Another problem mainly with Filipinos is not that we are so quick to consider as valid sources of information just because these sound either well-written or well-spoken, but not whether it has actual, factual content. That is why celebrities, bloggers, writers and personalities in the Philippines have their careers not because of real talent and integrity but because the masses will just believe anything. Maybe actual, educated, ethically-sound supporters just don’t say or post anything because they are busier than the few idiots who spoil the whole bunch? Usually, the noisiest people are the ones with nothing else to do, or no companies or offices or companies to run? The writer of this article claims he finally had enough, well, I also say that I’ve also had enough of half-assed bloggers relying too much on half-truths and haphazardly “researched” statements. You actually what would fix elections? If they weed out all the non taxpayers of this country and let only the real taxpayers vote! These are the only votes that count! If you are not paying back your country, then you don’t have say in how it should be run!
“Half-assed bloggers relying too much on half-truths and haphazardly “researched” statements..”
Have you read the first paragraph?
I have, but what I am aiming at is the nonchalant and brazen manner this article describes a certain group, yet does not have any factual numbers to stand on. If it wants to be a valid media source, it should work harder to be truthful. By truth, its data should be based on actual numbers or sources. But then, this is the Philippines. Everything is a circus. Why the hell do I still expect more.
Well, it’s all I can manage from where I am. The other writers around here might have more accurate information. I’m sure there’s plenty of them around.
P.S.: With everything that’s happened so far, it’s less “circus” and more “freakshow”…
“Ignorance begets more confidence than does intelligence..”
It’s a shame you did not experience Duterte’s leadership first hand. You guys don’t even have clean tap water to drink in the faucet, or the first ever 911 n the Philippines, here my mother have been robbed of her necklace and my aunt of her earrings, my cellphone almost stolen by a kid selling plastic bags in baclaran. I saw a man stabbed and still rides the jeepney with me, thieves slashing wallets and bags in jeepneys I saw them with my own eyes and even buses kahit babae magnanakaw. Hydrocephalus kid being used to beg for alms in Mrts, kids kidnapped in the cr in malls and kids being drugged by solvents to put them to sleep so the grown-ups can beg for money, teenagers sniffing rugby, kids kidnapped and sold for their organs. Laglag bala, customs tax, millionaire custom officers, balikbayan boxes, SAF44, rapists politicians and plunderers being re-elected, Yolanda funds not being used for the victims, instead used in paying for Kathryn Bernardo and Daniel Padilla’s endorsement of Mar Roxas. Have you ever been to Tacloban sir? I think you should visit places, areas with no water and electricity, no bridge, no school chairs and tables, because I have been to those places and I’m sick and tired of my tax going to politicians and their overpriced government projects who think ONLY OF THEMSELVES, THEIR RELATIVES AND THEIR CONCUBINES. I say.. enough said because I pity you. You don’t even know what the fck you are talking about. You don’t know a single cent about Mayor Duterte. Sa games of thrones pa.. “You know nothing Jon Snow.”
NONE OF THESE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED HERE EVER HAPPENED IN MY HOMETOWN FOR 36 YEARS (including my husband) I SAY YOU MR. Go to Davao and stay there for at least a year or two.
Please read the full article before commenting. Are you even commenting on the right article, ma’am? It seems you’re on the wrong frequency.
“To all the moderate supporters of Mr. Duterte, those who have shown both civility and respect when supporting their chosen candidate, this article is not for you. Know well that you still have my respect even if I don’t exactly agree with you.”
Actually, the first two sentences would do.
Some (repeat, SOME) people defend Duterte as if he is the redeemer. There would never be a healthy discussion with them because they will challenge your intelligence, ask what you have done for the country and if all that fails, they will tell you that “Inggit ka lang sa Davao.”
I feel you.
I haven’t spoken to any Noynoy/Mar diehards, so I couldn’t make a comment on them. And the lady’s comment that none of those happened in her 36 years in Davao is incredible. That should mean a crime rate of less than 1% (or make that 5% to make it realistic), which Davao does not have. And no, I am not envious of what people have in Davao.
Sa DAVAO madaming HIPON
Noytards, Dutertards, Macoytards, Poetards, Binay jejearmy
All are one and the same. They promote “Blind zombie worship” towards their candidates instead of thorough research between the pros and cons of each one.
There we go. Finally, someone who understood.
hey grim…we bunching people and calling them names now? what’s with the “tard” tag? we giving people who are mentally challenged a bad name? you know there will always be rabid blind followers and idolators so why waste your breath on them?
I’m just disappointed at why they’re still so prevalent. I mean, I think Duterte’s campaign would be more successful if there were somehow less of them. It’s like no matter where you go, they’re there breathing down our necks.
It hurts when you accuse us of being mentally retarded when we only experience the good governance of Mayor Duterte. Now when we’re overwhelmed to share it with everyone, you call us retards, zombies, blind followers. We’re not blind, were not stupid, we’re not zombies. We’re also educated just like you.. We may not be good at writing articles like you but we also have a degree. (Architects, software engineers, nurses, doctors from Davao who support him 200%) Some people are just lucky enough to experience that and how I wish you had..
Did you read the first paragraph like I asked? Did I say I was accusing ALL Duterte supporters as retards?
For Heaven’s sake, you’re just proving my point by playing dumb and blind. I already said that I still have some degree of respect for Mr. Duterte and his more civil supporters.
By continuing to either overlook or outright ignore what I am saying, then you’re proving that you’re indeed a retard or zombie.
Please read the first paragraph again. I am willing to wait.