Pi is still, theoretically, an endless number and yet it ends when the minds that can conceive or perceive it ends.

Computers can calculate the last number of Pi only as far as the formula used and the capacity of the computer to calculate. Beyond which, I suppose, Pi goes on and on. But in case you are wondering what number is at the end of Pi at the 2 quadrillionth place is, it’s zero — according to one report.

Here is what is said of Pi:

Being an irrational number, π cannot be expressed exactly as a common fraction. Consequently its decimal representation never ends and never settles into a permanent repeating pattern. The digits appear to be randomly distributed although no proof of this has yet been discovered. Also, π is a transcendental number – a number that is not the root of any nonzero polynomial having rational coefficients. This transcendence of π implies that it is impossible to solve the ancient challenge of squaring the circle with a compass and straight-edge.

Apart from being a good diversion in prison or the psychiatric word, calculating the last number of Pi can give you an idea of what is meant by the words endless, incalculable, uncountable, infinite, and eternal.

Amazing as it is, Pi does little to solve anything beyond mathematical problems. For example, it doesn’t tell you how to be a better person and how to relate better with other persons — which, to me, is the whole point of human life.

Thing is, if it is possible for human beings to go on forever like the number Pi, what would be the point?

Can you imagine yourself, as you are now or perhaps when you are much older, going on forever and ever?

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35 Comments on "Our Limited Thoughts of Infinity"

Then i guess living a stone-age lifestyle will be fine for you

That was the weirdest stretched analogy I’ve read for a while. It probably sounded good in your head, don’t know what I’m supposed to get out of it though.

i don’t think i made an analogy. kindly point out what you are referring to, thanks.

you equated the value of pi to infinity/eternity. That’s not an analogy?

You ended by asking if we could go on forever like an infinite number. I meant that.

Ii believe Paul’s point was that the whole discussion of ‘the nature of God’ and ‘infinity’ or the ‘destiny of man’ is ultimately irrelevant as long as we humans still fail to treat each other and our environment with dignity and respect.

actually, what i was thinking and probably need to work at some more is: what is the point of eternity?

The point of Eternity is so that people who don’t have anything better to do mull over it like there is no tomorrow…

Okay. Well, that’s more important, obviously. But we can still think about stuff in the meantime, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

Sure. No need to fret over which is more important. It just so happens the author chooses to focus on the human condition rather than cosmology.

I am in no way putting down mathematics as irrelevant in anyway. I am just saying, that like all things, mathematics has its limits beyond which we should look into other things for answers to some of life’s most intriguing questions.

Johnny, yes, I am aware of what you said here.

Thing is, though, most of the problems I deal with are on human relationships and it’s just easier for me not to use math. 😉

i am at awe of the concept of numbers that theoretically go on forever and at the precision with which we can devise machines that can explore the calculation to such great lengths.

Not one of your best Paul. I just have a comment though.

“Amazing as it is, Pi does little to solve anything beyond mathematical problems.” You have a point, but these mathematical problems have some real-world applications and therein lies their real value.

Of course, I am aware of that.

I’m sorry Paul, but relating pi with infinity doesn’t make sense for me. It’s just like relating 1.6180339887498948482… with infinity, it’s only difference with pi is that 1.6180339887498948482… can be represented by the math formula “(1 + sqrt(5)) / 2” whereas pi cannot be represented with any mathematical convention, hence we use the greek letter π.

For anyone curious: 1.6180339887498948482… is the golden ratio.

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Well, stretching the analogy between numbers and infinity, don’t you know that 0.99999…. is the same as 1?

there is an infinite set of values between 0 and 1. But, it’s not eternal. What Paul did, rationalizing an irrational number, is pseudoscience, which is what creationists do. They get a seemingly obscure science “fact” and turn it on itself to make it seem it proves the supernatural. See how he managed to put god and eternity into the mix?

Yes, it is one of my more stranger thoughts these days and I have to thank Benign0 for it because of his post (http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2014/04/the-promise-of-eternal-life-simplifying-the-unknown/).

Math versus God, who will win? It’s an intriguing idea and I am glad Benign0 took it up.

Thing is, I find myself ill equipped in this area and this explains why my post is so short.

There are so many transcendental and irrational numbers to choose from, apart from the ones you cited.

But, I think more people are familiar with Pi and so that’s what I used.

God is yet to be proven to exist. Math? Well, do you really believe your limited understanding of a mathematical concept justify your asking who will win?

Pi is just a mathematical concept. It is relevant and it is useful in Mathematics and Science. Like the Einstein’s Theory of Relativity…the Theory of Time and Space…It is hard to grasp it…but it is relevant, and useful with our limited knowledge and technology…let it be!!!

So tell me, when was the last time you calculated the circumference of anything… like your head, for example.

since you obviously promote religion, you have no use for math, hence, why you find Pi useless.

I don’t calculate things . My computer does it….and my Humanoid Robot called:”DATA”…I’m thinking of renaming my Humanoid Robot to: “Paul Farol”…maybe, it will be able to calculate the circumference of your head; not mine (the circumference of my head is : “top secret”)…and maybe, I will be able to see what you are thinking…

Meh… Come on man, you gotta have a better come back other than that.

His comeback is good actually. You failed to grasp the concept mainly because in order for you to prove the use of eternity (god), you tried to analogize it with Pi, incorrectly believing it represents something eternal.

To make a long story short, don’t tell it.

paul mistook infinite as eternal. the two are different concepts.

Ah so… Truthseeker wants an argument on semantics.

Talk about POMPOUS.