What is the right kind of Pinoy Pride?

A lot of people balked at my article “Pinoy Pride will never save the Philippines.” They said, in effect, pride isn’t all that bad, and I’m cruel for saying it is! And if pride won’t save us, what will?

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I agree, there is a kind of pride that is good. But the most popular form of Pinoy Pride is actually hubris and arrogance. So if this is not the right type of pride, what is? Let’s talk about it. To start, let me quote this page from philosophy professor Tom Moody of the California State University of San Bernardino, Self-Respect and the lack of it:

Vices: too much ego and too little ego.

Too much ego can lead to:

1. Arrogance, selfishness, greed, a sense of entitlement to whatever one wants. This leads to serious ends/means problems: such a person feels entitled to do whatever it takes to get what s/he wants. This leads to abuses of ends/means reasoning.

2. Intellectual arrogance: being too sure that one is right in what one believes. This tends to lead one to feel justified in doing whatever it takes to achieve one’s goals. It elbows out any humility that might lead one to ask whether it was right to harm people for one’s goals.

Too little ego can lead to:

1. Excessive conformity, even servility, because one does not believe that one’s own opinions are worth standing up for. It is very hard to have integrity if one has no respect for one’s moral identity or for the kind of person one believes one is.

2. Doing evil to assert to the world that one exists, that one should be paid attention to.

▶Arsonists are often trying to assert their power, their efficacy, to let the world know that they matter. “It’s a power trip,” said San Diego fire investigator Fred Herrera, “They’re able to cause all these emergency personnel and media and these people in their homes to pay attention to what they did.” [SB Sun, 10/27/03]

▶There was a case of a man who got on a bus intending to rob it, but the driver ran off with the case. Infuriated he took the passengers hostage. But unfortunately for everyone, the bus had huge side windows that allowed the hijacker to be seen clearly and the police failed to keep news cameras out, so that the hijacker could be seen on TV. There is evidence that he was more violent, more extreme, than he might otherwise have been because he was suddenly visible to the world.

▶ Cruelty and fear are man-made and the men who perpetrate them are ruled by them. Such men are only half-made things. They live out their unresolved lives by attempting to destroy anything that challenges the void in themselves. A fear-filled man transposes his inadequacy onto another. He blames them, hates them, and hopes to rid himself of his unloved self by hurting, or worse, destroying them.–Brian Keenan

3. A need to show that one is superior to another by showing that one has power over him or her.

We see a lot of cases where raped women are incapacitated by drugs or alcohol, sometimes surreptitiously. We even have a few cases where victims have been tagged. The rapist will use a felt-tip pen to mark his conquest just as a gang banger leaves his tag on a wall. –Gail Abarbanel, director of the Santa Monica Rape Treatment Center, quoted in Steve Lopez’s column in the LA Times, 10/26/03

Jacobo Timerman was tortured in Argentina under the military regime of the 1970’s. He noticed that “sometimes a bond developed between torturer and victim, who could come to need each other. The victim could need a human voice. ‘For the torturer, it is a sense of omnipotence. . . the torturer needs to be needed by the tortured.’ He described one of the men offering him a woman prisoner to have sex with. His refusal made the man angry: In some way he needs to demonstrate to me and to himself his capacity to grant things, to alter my world, my situation. To demonstrate to me that I need things which only he can provide.

4. Bigotry stemming from a need to feel superior to someone. If one’s group is superior to another’s, then no matter how lowly an individual one is, one can still feel superior. Tom Ewell’s bigotry stems from this need to feel superior to someone. He may be poor ignorant white trash but he can still feel superior to any black person.

Virtue: Self-respect.

To have self-respect is to have neither too high nor too low an opinion of oneself. It is to value one’s integrity, to be capable of shame if one fails to live up to one’s own opinion of what one should do and how one should be. Self-respect is the foundation of respect for others. One of the most unfortunate effects of bigotry is that it tends to lower the self-esteem of the group that is its target. It’s difficult to maintain self-respect if the society around one continually expresses its contempt for you and its belief that you are inferior to them.

There you go: as colleague FallenAngel also says, self-respect is the right kind of pride. It actually can have little or nothing to do with nationality. It has nothing to do with competition with people of other countries. It only has to do with doing what you do best and doing it properly and ethically while keeping your head straight, letting your actions speak for you without calling attention to yourself.

I also believe Filipinos can be guilty of all the vices listed above. I would first cite number 1 of Too Much Ego: sense of entitlement is an obvious problem of many Filipinos. Number 2 also applies to Filipinos, while I’m sure people familiar with the history of GRP know specific cases.

I also cite all of the Too Little Ego part. Filipinos tend to be silent or just “follow and follow” the wrong behaviors to avoid trouble, proof of number 1. On number 2, perhaps Filipinos make too much noise or trouble on the world scene because they want to be seen. That’s the KSP fellow blogger Gog talked about. On number 3, perhaps we can cite bullying incidents in our society, such as the Carabuena and Amalayer incidents, or even the “Museum of Me.” On number 4, believing that Filipinos are special or have special talents as compared to the rest of the world is a form of bigotry.

When some Filipinos say they need pride to keep going through the day in other countries, it’s not the same as Pinoy Pride as I explained in my previous article. It is actually a healthy dose of self-respect, which is essential and helpful. It can be manifested in pride in what you do, not because of what you are.

But to address the question, what will save the Philippines? In my view, a change of values. We need to carefully study, understand and select the values that we believe and practice, because there are wrong values and right values, and even right and wrong interpretation of values. I believe these are the center of all our actions, and our success or failure as a nation. This includes valuing Humility over Pride. That includes being resistant to mass media that seems to inject a lot of wrong beliefs in our people.

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I stick with this blog because I believe, as my cohorts do, that many things Filipino embrace as part of their culture keep their society backward. And blogging freely to show that in a truly decent society, with true freedom of speech, even nobodies have a voice.

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I stick with this blog because I believe, as my cohorts do, that many things Filipino embrace as part of their culture keep their society backward. And blogging freely to show that in a truly decent society, with true freedom of speech, even nobodies have a voice.

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Gogs
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One day. Maybe even in our lifetime. There will come a day where Filipino communities and streets will be orderly instead of chaos. Where pinoys will support and vote in leaders who selflessly serve the community for the better, When that day comes, everything else like Manny or Jessic Sanchez will seem so trivial in perspective. Because the Pinoy is responsible for their communities , their streets, their living conditions, their leaders, if that day comes , I will be the first to applaud. One indicator that the day is near will be dwindling KSP. I am not sure if… Read more »
prieto
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can you cite one country where we can find these “orderly communities” right now?

WinterSoldier
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Singapore, Malaysia, Luxembourg, Finland, Norway, Luxembourg even America just to name a few. They don’t play victims and they care about their people at the very least.

Gerry
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YO FAKE ‘SOLDIER’, you do not have a clue about what is going on in the USA.
its a FACT, u r clueless about these things.
Lemme guess, ur gonna make some idiotic comment about the ‘Founding Fathers’ next? HA HA HA!

WinterSoldier
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@Gerry: Ad hominem attack. 😛

Of course, I know and I’m aware about what’s happening in America and you just love to make assumptions against me. And it’s not a good idea.

But if you ask me, the Philippines as nothing CLOSE to America, let alone Finland, Norway, Luxemborg or Singapore. That’s my point.

How about yours? Can’t even understand you since your’re STILL putting up more EMO comments against me.

oldbread
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winter soldier, that’s absolutely rubbish. I’m singaporean and I’ve been told for the last 5 years, Singapore would have gone underwater if not for all the pinoy talents keeping us running We’re dumb, can’t string a sentence in English. can’t carry out tasks and need the higher cognitive abilities of Filipinos or dumb fark Singaporean mongoloids would die of our own stupidity. It’s a waste of office space to hire Singaporean cowards who need to serve in the army(why we heard Filipinos say we’ll be the first to flee our homes if there’s danger) In fact not a day goes… Read more »
WinterSoldier
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Maybe Oldbread is a TROLL. 😛

oldbread
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I haven’t actually opinion

I changed tasks

Nope I’m still Singaporean, I still want this new “ruling race” out. I still am very much against Filipino imperialism in Singapore
Yes I’m happy with my Muslim countrymen. I do not need pinoys or pinays or pinatas to offer to come in to dilute them. In fact I hope their population ratio gets higher.

And yes still a pagan, so it’s still hell and brimstone for me.
Yes also to anyone asking, us pagans still have our foreskins attached

oldbread
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Yes pagan plus foreskins plus fire and brimstone means I’m not getting my 72 virgins either

For anyone guessing that way because of thrones Muslim comment

We have enough trouble with one , no need for 72

For those too thick to catch it.
No I’m not Muslim

For those who wondered
No Muslims here think they’ll get 72 virgins by blowing themselves up.

Besides the last time someone tried they were smart enough to make sure the bomb wasn’t attached to the body

But they still got caught anyway

domo
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@sendongslut a.k.a. jon-asshole’s wife: Australia, New Zealand, Iceland.

oldbread are you really a Singaporean or are you just a flip pretending to be? If you really are, then you lack discipline. Your country is already progressive for teaching your fellow countrymen discipline that our country lacks and it’s very sad that you sir still act like a spoiled kid.

david
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+ Canada. He’s clearly a Filipino full of pride. It’s what they believe.

oldbread
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Trust me the only time I would only want to even pretend to be a flip is No wait…. I never wanted to be a flip In fact I never wanted to be any other nationality or even Singaporean Its some thing you’re born into That’s your cultural habits not ours If we suck even if we changed our nationality we’ll still suck Discipline begins at home not in the govt though years of social engineering did a number on us And why is it your comments page always always like to talk about Moral values of the person you’re… Read more »
oldbread
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Before you reply you need to think it through

I’m essentially not a good wonderful person so adopting moral high ground wouldn’t work

God doesn’t work either since I’m a pagan

oldbread
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Domo

Its actually very very disturbing as a Singaporean to stumble upon this place

Its full of people listing out Filipino faults and ways to improve themselves
It feels like the twilight zone to me
I thought I needed to have all your brains check to look for trauma.

My usual haunts are more like GMA news comments section during the taiwanese fishermen saga

oldbread
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Let’s just say during 2010 no one cared about Filipinos And since then Singaporeans are seething with anger when the topic comes up And it’s a standard operating procedure for us to find out more about things we don’t like then going in blind. When anger increased against PRC we had people joining Chinese forums to read their postings. Like the recent case when a disgraced prc immigrant tried to gather support from the Chinese (his efforts were posted here as proof of his disloyalty to his new “home”) Likewise, when it concerned Filipinos any news with an impact would… Read more »
oldbread
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Don’t be ridiculous, not all of us are perpetually stuck in singlish mode I hardly use lah with anyone who isn’t a local or a Malaysian Wud chiu prefer tat I rikes to speak to chiu dis way? No har? Ok loh . This shows how little you know about us. And we’re made up of more than ching chongs Lah lohs. Margunn • 1 hour 56 minutes ago Report AbusePlease! Why Singaporeans are trying hard to speak English? Don’t try hard and stutter when you ching chong can speak fluently in chinese and you are also talking to ching… Read more »
oldbread
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Yes yes maybe I’m a troll or I simply disagree with the views of an entire nation

Joyce
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I agree.

Lbrto
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Pride when in the hands of an able person is a good tool… Give it to a lesser-person, you know what comes next… :3

Johnny Saint
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There’re are almost six hundred comments posted to your previous essay. This makes the sixth here. Curious that the first would generate such a “violent” reaction 😉 And q lot of it from people who failed to understand the point of the article. Wonder if this will have as many responses in two days?

Anyway, good read. The message would be incomplete without it. Of course, the chattering crowd will probably find something to pick apart.

libertas
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False pride is a negative barrier to progress – (rose coloured glasses), whilst shame can be a positive motivation to change/improve. (the perspective of reality, and the reinforcement of appropriate values/behaviour) The underlying issue is clarity of the core values/culture held by the individual/group/society, and maintaining a healthy relationship/balance between both pride and shame, and mechanisms to reinforce both It is also important to let genuine pride evolve naturally through real achievement, rather than simply be a marketing tool or propaganda rammed down people’s throats incessantly, which will only evoke antagonism and achieve nothing. Within the philippines there tends to… Read more »
bida kapamilya
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To the author, here is a dose:

http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/32736-buzzfeed-list-pinoy-pride

isama mo pa diyan si Coach Spoesltra, Manny Pacquiao, Bruno Mars at Batista. Marami pa maipagyayabang ang Pinoy. #proudpinoy #proudrace

WinterSoldier
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Ah, Rappler. Dumbing down the minds of millions of Filipino through the internet. 😛 These people speak more of their INDIVIDUAL achievements than collective.

Here’s some lesson from the late George Carlin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZnEQ8wknmg

Unknowingly, you’re BRAINWASHED since Rappler is also ABS-CBN propaganda. 😀

Gerry
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George Carlin? the dead, pot-smoking comic that was last relevant in 1979? u can’t do better than that?
OH, that’s right, u can’t.

WinterSoldier
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You never watched the video, don’t you? He is totally spot on about national or ethnic pride.

Your point? Oh wait, you can’t. 😛

johndoenymous@gmail.com
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johndoenymous@gmail.com

Not sure if sarcastic, trolling, or whatever.

#proudpinoy #proudrace

MidwayHaven
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Filipinos are not a race.

WinterSoldier
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http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/pacquiao-career-over-mayweather-203450002.html

Someone will rustle their own jimmies reading this.

WinterSoldier
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Kung may nagsasabi na “Pilipino ka. Dapat iangat mo ang kapwa mo Pilipino” mapapatawa ka lang talaga. You’ll go like:

Amf parang socialism yan ah! Pantay pantay po para lahat ay meron kahit ang mga iba ay ginagawa ang lahat para mag tyaga habang ang mga inutil na di nagtatrabaho ay gusto kin mapayapa pero ayaw gumawa ng sariling paraan.

Thomas Jefferson
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Pride should be tempered with reality, justice, fairness, sober thinking and analysis. Pride has its negative dark side when it unites people to do or not to do things at the expense of others. Values, morals, goodness and humanity are thrown to the wind. Thus thoughts can be influenced to do evil and the greater good forgotten. Remember the Nazi pride for their super race? The persecution of the Klu Klux Klan? The “superior” ideologies of the extreme left and the right? Pride should shine in the light of truth and justice. True pride is shown in the light of… Read more »
Gerry
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Gud question, BUT, the right kind of pride is the one that a person is comfortable with.
Nothing is going to ‘save’ the Filippines and I wud advise anyone who can leave, to do so immediately. the people who run the country are robbing you blind, just like everywhere else, but working for P300/day? how can that even be legal?

WinterSoldier
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Flawed government system, flawed constitution, flawed society, flawed culture.

And not just government officials who is ‘stealing’ from the people. Even the PEOPLE themselves are ‘stealing’ from each other. Not to mention that the current president has the bigger pork barrel ever.

So how can I a dumbass???

Gerry
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UR making this too ez 4 me! Read ur last sentence and , again, u’ll have ur answer. U kno, just 2 make a point…we agree w/the current situation in the country is pretty much as fucked as fucked can be, yes? instead of attacking someone like me, it would be better to be an ally. BUT BUT BUT, if you would rather be hurling insults at each other every time one of us see’s an opening, imma cool with it! I do not agree with all the points made here in this blog but at least there is a… Read more »
PARK SON JE
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I agree with the “up-lifting people”. The previous post was more like degrading.

PARK SON JE
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What cause all these negative behaviors of the Filipinos? Ans: Media. Negative image portrayed. The the themes of action movies of philippine television 10-20 years ago where all about drug syndicates. Police will come late during the action. Well, the effect is drug syndicates boost in our country, majority of the the police here in the philippines are incompetent to do there duty.

begalon
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Ding Soldier! You dont have anything better to say about the Philippines, but in a sense you have a valid point.

Working for P300/day is understatement, and yet they have the audacity of pride to taunt their wealth. You are not a dumbass after all. Makes me scratch my balding head wondering how is that possible?

begalon
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Filipino pride is like people I know who thinks they are better than their neighbors and friends, as a results they dont recognize them as their co-equal. When we stop putting too much emphasis on social classes then I would agree with Gogs that Philippines will be orderly sometimes. When we learn and train our children where to throw trash, then there is hope. When we learn to wait and get in line, then we could expect orderliness. When the mayors and politicians stop enriching themselves and focus on the welfare of its people, then perhaps we could learn self-respect.… Read more »
oldbread
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Thing is, while I’ve never been there I believe the average person in Philippines if asked directly in the face, can actually answer your questions on what’s right or wrong. It’s the same thing with the Filipinos here But when it comes to doing, it’s always sickening boils down to how far they can get away with as little work as possible. Believe me when I say kids know a trash can is for throwing trash in. But it’s like reading about a faraway place in a story book. It doesn’t apply until they’re affected. You either have to live… Read more »
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[…] our being onion-skinned when we are criticized by other countries, and our arrogant form of the Pinoy Pride habit. Some observe that we may be the only nation that brings home big “Balikbayan” […]

begalon
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Its funny two negatives in math we find the sum total (addition) of negatives that is why it is not doable in the the Philippines.

In America, when one say “UnAmerican” they tend to take it like a constructive criticism and take pride to find a solution to correct the problem. Whereas in the Philippines, we react nagatively. Truth hurts because we lack the ability to find solutions so that it could not happen again. It is a misplaced pride.

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[…] debunked since then, and it was nothing more than propaganda. It actually seems similar to our own Pinoy Pride, because it implied a sentiment of ethnic superiority. May critics and commentators went against […]

eachhisown
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I agree with @begalon that “Truth hurts because we lack the ability to find solutions so that it could not happen again.”

To begin with majority of Filipinos could not comprehend that.

Referring to @oldbread’s comment about trash cans for trash, what most Filipinos understand is trash cans need to be stolen even if they don’t really need it, especially if it looks interesting.

Perhaps that’s one of the reasons most mall management prefer not to spend money to deploy rubbish bins inside their buildings, or maybe they know that most Filipinos would rather throw their rubbish anywhere than in the trash cans.

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[…] having a controlled ego – which is the right kind of pride. With the proper self-esteem, the right kind of pride, we can avoid the things that make us the subject of scorn and satire by other people, and we can […]

MatX
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What is the right kind of Pinoy Pride?

The one where Filipinos stop being proud of the accomplishments of other Filipinos, and instead make accomplishments of their own without having to brag about it.

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