Imagine if vice presidential candidate Bongbong Marcos (BBM) was as abrasive and harsh as Alan Peter Cayetano. Yesterday’s vice presidential debate would have deteriorated very quickly. BBM kept his cool because nothing could be achieved by attacking back. Yet, he could if we think about it. Rene Cayetano, the father of Alan, was a partner in Pecabar, which was the go-to law firm during Martial Law (ML), because Enrile was also a partner in the firm. So, you could say that the father of Alan was a beneficiary of ML because his family was part of the then powers-that-be.
Then you have Leni Robredo, whose father was also appointed by former president Ferdinand Marcos (FM) as a judge. Then you have Chiz Escudero, whose father was the Agriculture Minister of FM. Of course, Gringo Honasan was of the inner circle of Enrile at the Department of National Defense (DND) and privately also the COO of the businesses of the Enriles in Cebu. If they are so antagonistic against BBM, gosh their candidates are people who led very comfortable lives during ML. Surely, if BBM wanted to, he could have asked his staff to dig all sorts of dirt against the families and friends of his opponents, like what they are doing against him. But, what would that achieve? A scorched earth policy? But, what would that build when he has now chosen a path of mending and unifying?
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What Alan has proven is that he is a seasoned bellyacher, which means he should remain in the Blue Ribbon Committee where his talent could be more useful. He could also be a good trial lawyer, and I believe he should pursue such. But to be in the Executive Department, much more a VP? Gosh, how could he execute policies and programs with such abrasiveness. He even outdoes his father who was a suave gentleman and thus, is the opposite of his father.
He is also trying to outdo lawyers like Rene Saguisag and Joker Arroyo, and we know what kind of lawyers they are when they become politicians. They are perfect when they are in the opposition, but flounder pathetically when they find themselves in power. No, Alan cannot be in the Executive Dept, or he would just mess up that branch and waste his talent there. See, he was trying very hard to be like a Duterte, and yet it can be seen he is no Rodrigo Duterte, so he looks like a court jester in the court of Duterte. Sonamagan, how some people will go to the extent of making themselves clownish just to be in power. These are really sad stories. Sayang ang mga talents, mga summa cum laudes pa naman sa school, but because power blinds them, they no longer know themselves.
I guess same could be said about Chiz who was trying to be the opposite of Alan; to be cool as a cucumber. But this guy is a schemer and is sneaky from what I hear in the grapevine. So, I get it when he tries to be flowery with his words. Gosh, he would be a great car salesman. Sayang din, cum laude din sa school, but really does not know himself anymore. He should be in the private sector, maybe as a commercial lawyer.
Never mind Antonio Trillanes. This guy shoots from the hip and says the craziest things. But, what do you expect from a megalomaniac?
I was quite impressed by BBM, Gringo and Leni. Unfortunately, Gringo and Leni are with the wrong groups; mga napilitan lang; they should detach themselves, or they are ruining their futures. Sayang din, the two.
Quite unfortunate then was the quality of the audience. They came not with an open mind, to listen to what is good for the country, and to decide their vote thereafter. They had already decided their candidate, so they came to cheer as if it was an Ateneo versus La Salle basketball match. But, the awful sounds they were generating, while I was watching the debates on TV, made me conclude early on, it was a bakya crowd, the gusgusin kind, therein. Indeed, it was a sabong. No wonder foreigners don’t respect Pinoys; they think we never take anything seriously; it’s all just joke. ..yea, it’s more fun in PHL.
If the audience had been really listening to BBM, they would have heard him asking to be the Secretary of Department of Labor and Employment (DOLE). It is the Labor Portfolio. It is the most thankless job in government. This is something phenomenal. Really, an earthquake. He is looking at doing war with Oligarchs, if he really wants to do a good job in DOLE to benefit Labor.
But, this means he understands the root cause of all problems. Humans cannot have dignity if they cannot have work. We cannot play in the global competition if part of the population is unemployed, or underemployed, or underpaid; we cannot play basketball with only two or three players; all five players should be in tip-top conditions. A secretary of DOLE, who is a VP, might just correct things in DOLE, which has so far been providing Oligarchs with slaves, who are Pinoys.
His objective obviously is the growing of the middle class. If this is the objective then all other problems start to fall in their proper and respective places. A working population means also solving cultural and social problems. It is a lofty objective, but it gives a hint that BBM is profound; all the other candidates are pygmies, as Manila Times columnist Bobi Tiglao already observed.
When BBM said this, there should have been a thunderous applause from the audience. A VP who is a Secretary of the DOLE? And not just a token czar of OFWs as before? Out of this world!!! Oligarchs must have already taken notice, and that is why they sent people to shout him down, and the propaganda machine is in full throttle.
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The obvious thing to address in labor is contractualization, and that provision in the Labor Code allowing for a company to hold an employee under probation for six months, but many companies use this to remove an employee, or declare them ended and rehired, so they can’t be made regular in the work force.
The tragedy is that while Marcos seems to be the last bastion of decorum and civilized behavior, because of his family’s “martial law,” people these days have associated decorum and civilized behavior with being evil. This is a sad turn of the cultural mindset that could spell the end of overall decency in this country.
Also, this one is getting floated around recently, about the Marcoses getting a contempt rap from a U.S. court and a fine of $2 billion. If this is still up, I do hope this could be resolved. But I saw “secret deal with the Philippine government,” I wonder if this was with the Aquino or related administration then (Ramos), that helped protect the Marcoses from this case.
You’re actually spot-on.
I remember when someone said this:
“Buti pa noong panahon ni Marcos na pwede kang magtrabaho hanggang sa magretiro o hanggang kaya mo pa. Ngayon, pagkatapos ng 3 o 6 months tanggal ka na. Mas lalo pang humirap ang buhay.”
This is a good policy. Now, we have age limit on employees so if you’re over 25, 30’s or 40’s it’ll be difficult for you to land a job. And people with a physical defect also work during Marcos time. I remember my grandfather told me that there’s a resto in Rizal Park where the service crew are, I’m sorry, I can’t remember if it’s deaf or blind.
resto run by the deaf and mute and served mostly hotdog sandwiches.
actually nuong panahon ni Macoy sa Military is at age 55 ay pwede kna mag retire kaya nman umusbong at maraming gustong pumasok nuon sa pagka sundalo or Pulis.
I can attest to it. My father uses to work as a gardener in Rizal Park and it is indeed. Even if you are an exconvict you are welcome to work there and have a decent life. They can even have 2 or 3 jobs at the same time as long as they can, and these are regular jobs not contractual.
Yan nga eh s sg.matatanda mga waitress janitres.. Like dto s HK rin sakes kady janitres waittress matatanda na still these 2 country very progressive… Jan sa atin s pnas hi standard ang qualification english fluent pa! age limit,height,education attainment,mas malala may personal appearance pa kahit dishwashers lang ang aaplayan…
Buti pa nung panahon ni Marcos kaya mo pang magtrabaho tinabunan ka na ng semento sa Manila Film Center.
Can’t blame the Marcoses for that. If anyone is at fault, it’s the company that provided the substandard materials.
P.S. Your username is joke, faggot. 🙂
It was an accident nobody wanted that to happen.and there was no truth in the story being peddled that prople were buried alive on that building, only ignorant and stupid will believe that
At buti pa panahon ni aquino ngayon, araw-araw kang nagdudusa sa matinding trapik at hinahayaan kang mamatay as bawat kalamidad.
Nagmamakabayan ka pa ha bobong wannabe.
buti pa noong panahon ni Marcos? e di ka nga makakapag salita nang negative comment noon—just like what you/we are doing here?…..sana alam natin ang pinagsasabi natin and we learn from history atwag kalimutan ang past for a better future!
TROLL. 🙂
So do Bale na lang na wala kang masakyan at wala ka ring makain basta Malaya kang magpahayag ng opinion mo? Where’s the responsibility and discipline? Answer: wala.
Huwag kalimutan ang past? How can we move forward if we keep on inefficiently correcting our mistakes by just STICKING to it? We have that kind of thinking because we have no VISION of a future to look forward to!
Your point? Oh, you can’t say shit because you’re actually butthurt about the fact that NOTHING has changed after Marcos left. And you’re delusional if you say there are changes. That’s reality-check, son.
sa tingin nsa better future kna ngayun totoy?
Baliktarin kaya natin ang sitwasyon, paano kung naging Communists tayo at napatalsik nila si Marcos at ikinulong hanggang sa namatay? Mas malaya ka ba sa pamumuno ng mga Communists at ang sasantuhin mo lang ay ang Lider na para kang robot, kapag nagkamali ay PATAY ka kaagad?
Baaw did marcos always treat you like garbage? Well serves you right because you hate discipline and you’ve done nothing but abuse your freedom. In other words, I bet you’re one of those commiefucks giving this country trouble.
This might help. In reply to the link that was published in 2012.
Court won’t honor US ruling vs Marcoses
how did a marcos loyalist like the author who wrote this article got in the circle of ‘get real’ website? is this the same guy who provided a full article of imee marcos like this was a lifestyle magazine?
even more surprising is how did get real allow an imee marcos garbage to be published in this website and now 4 articles of bongbong marcos being the best bet for vice-presidency?!?!
come on get real! you are better than this.
Come on, trollfag. Would stop being an EMO loser and try to set your priorities for once?
This is the current norm: if someone had a neutral POV, then you are labelled as a ‘Marcos loyalist.
Son, you just went FULL RETARD with what you wrote. -_-
To the tune of Amazing Grace:
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
Of the LP whining
They attack BBM
but still they fail
‘Coz they’ve got zip on him
Honasan is the son in law, of Enrile. Enrile’s mistress bore him a daughter. And, the illegitimate daughter , became Honasan’s wife.
We can examine, the capabilities of those candidates thru the debates. They all have to think on their feet.
Still, I do not endorse any candidate. You decide, who can be the Vice President.
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well the good news for BBM is he didn’t received DAP (presidential pork barrel) funds for the past 4 years besides Sen. Miriam. Good thing that he’d choose her as his tandem for this year’s election.
https://twitter.com/_erickjav_/status/719174540421505024
but he got the biggest involvement in napoles scandal next only to revilla, enrile and jinggoy in that order.
get well soon evil oligarchs!
Great article, excellent analysis.
The foundation of strong economy is the working/middle class.
The rich class – takes all the money, pays none of the taxes.
The working class – does all the work, pays all the taxes.
I don’t get the point of this post kung wala namang direct example. It’s one of the posts na “Cayetano sucks because (states opinion here as if it matters)” alam na alam mo na agad ung agenda right at the get-go. I also don’t get the argument that BBM could have “struck back”, it’s a debate, parang mong sinabi na “I admire pacquiao for no throwing punches against bradley, it just shows how pacquiao is the supreme boxer”. Kabobohan naman un, eh kung kaya nya naman palang ipaglaban, edi why not? It just shows 2 things, unang una sa lahat, ndi nya alam ano purpose ng pinuntahan nya. Pangalawa, pinapakita nya nalang din na hindi nya alam paano depensahan sarili nya.
It’s not the proper place and time para magbatuhan ng magbatuhan ng personal issues dahel sa dami din ng issues ng cayetanos example s corruption at dynasty,kulang oras at wlang patutunguhan ung debate. It’s not the very purpose of the debate in the first place. And every candidates know that but cayetano. It’s true na kung kagaya lang nya yung iba na away pala ang hanap,it might have ruined the debate.
So you prefer to be a malicious utak palengkero instead of a classy person in front of the audience then? It’s a debate not a jailbreak bloodbath.
I like your comparison of the debate with boxing.
It made me curious enough to ask you this:
If Bradley would be throwing punches below the belt, do you mean that Pacquiao should do it too? Kabobohan ba kung hindi? Or is it simply playing by the rules? Or in the debates’ case just being the better Candidate? or Smarter?
What you just said Jackson were very smart and logical.what Cayetano didn’t realize that he’s sharp tounge would put him more below the survey and BBM’s cool under fire attitude( which i thought comes naturally from him),brought him to the top.
fgasdsa, tama si jackson, in boxing you don’t hit back below the belt even if the opponent do so, because the points will be given to the one that follows the rule of the game. Same thing with this debate, due to BBM’s cool and calm stand, the sympathy of the crowd went to him
Like you said, it’s a debate. It wasn’t a senate hearing. It wasn’t the proper platform do be ranting about your opponent’s family, paticularly his father.
Cayetano focused too much on throwing shades instead of actually discussing the solution to the country’s problem. He kept yapping about corruption and the idea that they will eradicate crime. And I kept thinking “ok dude, cool. But HOW are you gonna do it??” I wanted to hear his plans but he focused too much on BBM. Everything he said about BBM was already repeated dozens of times over the past few months. He basically wasted most of our time.
BBM couldve revealed all the corruption cases against the Cayetanos but he didn’t. Because that’s not what the debate is for!!]
As Gringo repeatedly said: “there is a proper place and time”. Alan was all over the place, he was being a prosecutor — in a debate! The debate was supposed to be on the issues dished out by the moderators, not on allegations, accusations, and perceived wrongdoings. He was like a maldita making “parinig” and “pasaring” and when these failed, outright taunts naman para lang patulan siya.
I believe the writeup makes perfect sense. If you can’t understand it, it basically boils down to how BBM chose to be his higher self and not stoop to the level of his bashers, and how he really has a plan of service (in his wanting to be DOLE sec) coz despite the popular choice to be DILG sec, he chose a “thankless” job.
Actually, Leni was also a turn off during the debate in the sense that she engaged in issuing innuendoes (pasaring, parinig). Tsk tsk. And I thought she was classy (classy meaning may breeding, hindi classy na sosyal).
The Loudest Drum has nothing but air in it 🙂
Well said!
We have to think of the purpose of the debate here. Emphasis on purpose and debate. What Cayetano did was to undermine BBMs credibility all throughout the session which was not the purpose of the debate. The purpose was to show the people concrete plan of actions for the country if they are elected VP. Should there be any conflict in the POVs among the contenders, that’s where the debate ensues. A debate should be an intelligent flow of discussion and rebuttal of ideas among the contenders, what happened was politicking at its finest (specially on the side of Cayetano). Digging up old bones and throwing it to someone who is not entirely liable for such actions is not a debate. BBM is not the entirety of the Marcos clan, he is an individual running for an office. His family’s track record in Philippine politics is not his track record as an invidual politician. Cayetano should’ve known better.
Tanga ka ba debate un hindi boxing…..
di na kailangang magpatutsada ni BBM sa kapwa nya kandidato. alam nya kung paano sumagot nang hindi tinitira ang anumang personal issues. para sa mga may utak, di na nya kinailangang manira sapat na ung track record nya.
Debate doesnt mean throw mudsling on your opponent like you are on a cockpit arena… debate is a mthod of formally presenting an argument in fisciplined manner… ok alan has a point so as everyone but his manner of debating is somewhat looks bad and awefull. He disrespect his opponent. Look at Leni she also pin down marcos on the same issue ML but she did it gracefully and not like a wild boar munching and munching nonsense. And to think he gesture pustahan on the debate the one lying may not pursue candidacy is unbeliebale…
Yes, there were laudable achievements during the Marcos administration but we cannot deny the fact that Philippine’s debt ballooned during his administration which until now we’re not done paying. Or was that a lie too? I’m a millennial and I want to be enlightened. Thanks!
bkit ung japan sila ang my pinakamataas na utang sa world bank pero 1st world country sila..ung time ni marcos nagamit namn ung inutang sa mga infrastructure..time ni corytard pinagbebenta mga ari arian ng gobyerno taz lumaki ang utang wala man lng nagawa..wala man lng nagbago sa pinas lalong bumagsak..
In fairness meron aman, pag papalitan ang mga name ng important establishment name after the so called hero lol
The fact is this… Filipinos will be paying the marcos foreign debt until 2025… after that does it mean we don’t have any foreign debt left? If not then how long are we going to pay those debt and what sort of infrastructures where built with those debts?
@bbmforvp
The fact is this, every year this country is relying on foreign debt. Saying that we will be paying for the debt Marcos incurred till 2025 is just inaccurate.
Also note that the 2015 budget is running in trillions, so what debt under whose leadership are you talking about?
Lemme give you a concrete example on how the world works.
I’m an engineer and I used to work for a big developer/construction company. The company borrowed 1.5 billion pesos from BDO for the construction of a condominium building. The idea is that we borrow money from a bank, build a condominium, and the profit from the condominium will be used to pay for the money borrowed from the bank. After the debt is paid, all that there’s left is the continiuing profit from the condominium. In short, we borrowed money and invested it.
We believe that was the late Marcos’s plan. He borrows money from the world bank to build structures to better our lives and in a couple of years, we’ll be able to pay for those debt. But his plans were not continued. So think of it this way. Before the construction of the condominium was finished, the owner of the company died, and the company was given to a person with no idea how to run a company. The new owner didn’t continue building the condominium and they are now complaining that they have so much debt to pay.
wiki:
Under Marcos, the Philippines saw its external debt balloon from $360 million (U.S.) in 1962 to $28.3 billion (U.S.) in 1986.[23] Much of this debt was for the government to finance economic development projects..
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Marcos built us a lot of infrastructure (Geothermal plants, LRT, Heart/Lung/Kidney Center, PICC, NLEX, SLEX, CCP, NAIA, San Juanico, BNPP, etc.) except that the next administration was too incompetent to run BNPP -> so 2.3B USD went down the drain. We’d rather have brownouts and pay high electric bills; keeping investors from coming in. We have hardly expanded the LRT system to the likes of what our Asian neighbors have.
Our current external debt is at 78B USD. So the Marcos years were really a quantum leap in our debt, even considering inflation into account (value of money then was actually higher); but they were all great investments.
Of course we can’t pay all at once. And we even keep borrowing new loans while slowly paying old ones. We have a 3 Trillion peso budget for 2016. 14% goes to debt servicing.
2016 budget
From a bigger picture, with a 300B USD GDP, and a public debt of 37% of GDP, we’re not really a sinking ship. The problem really is translating our development into something more pro-poor/inclusive, and getting more bang for the buck in how we invest those precious loans.
It all boils down to the twin towers: corruption and incompetence. Vote for leaders who will eliminate these 2 evils in our society/government guys.
With news as good as this, looks like we’re on the right track:
Duterte overtakes Poe, claims lead in ABS-CBN survey
The philippine debt during the marcos administration ballooned particularly due to the numerous infrastructure projects initiated ny the FM administration. Tthe Bataan Nuclear Power Plant for example became too expensive to operate due to the constant pillaging and sabotage the CPP/NPA is doing to the plant. Then you have the Cory Aquino Admin cancelling all projects marcos already initiated. These cancellations wasted millions of taxpayers’ money. This is why our national debt ballooned.
The modern Labor Code was written by his father (staff more like). Workers tend to forget that NLRC, 13th month pay etc came from Macoy.
Our kind of Government, style is an Amature!
“Sorry for the Filipino people,”.
We need to change ! Re new’ed,
The debate for VP- is impotent dis-graceful, specially Robredo-newly candidate, & Cayetano-awfulness speech.
COMELEC! BEWARE! NO WAY for CHEATING! REPLACING! DEFRAUD!
For the Filipino People, Keep Philippines RISE AGAIN!!!!!’
May I know what you find wrong with Leni Robredo?
It’s pretty obvious for Cayetano but I’m curious about Robredo
There’s nothing wrong with Leni but Im just worried for her as VP. Remember, her basic function is to replace the Pres in case he or she dies for whatevet reason. Sorry but she does not have the character to govern this chaotic Country & undiscipline people. Remember her campaign is financed by the oligarchs and one can already conclude what happens when she becomes VP or Pres.
President Marcos’ policy is really a high standard. He want’s to be in par with other European and Western countries. He foresees that the Philippines could be the number one country in the world. But the enemy stole that dream for their own ill-ambition.
He’s son Bongbong Marcos Jr. is a legacy of his father. A a young age he had been so much involved in everything. During his earlier period of political career, he already proved himself to be worthy of the name Marcos. He’s vision he got from his father could save the country from being torn apart.
I agree with you. Mabuhay BBM for VP. Mabuhay PILIPINOS.
Use “his”, not he’s!!
The debate of vice presidentiables generates profound views from all walks of life about the candidates, about the pressing issues of our motherland, about our history as a nation – its lights and shadows, thus, the totality of it had given everyone the chance to look deeper into the persona of the candidates, to listen more with the heart and to compassionately think over for the next years of our country after May elections. God bless our nation!
The debate of vice presidentiables generates profound views from all walks of life about the candidates, about the pressing issues of our motherland, about our history as a nation – its lights and shadows, thus, the totality of it had given everyone the chance to look deeper into the persona of the candidates, to listen more with the heart and to compassionately think over for the next years of our country after May elections. God bless our nation!
Marcos is a very curious case. Obviously, he’s done some things for the country or at least, his province/region.
However, he’s dragged down by his own name and his own family.
There’s also the issue about Oxford; whether you believe that he embellished his resume and got caught or failed to understand what his diploma meant is no longer important, the fact that this became an issue in the first place affects voter trust.
Why do you think that Oxford issue came out in the first place? Then Mar graduating from Wharton became a hot issue from Rappler. Then compare their government track records and the way they carry themselves.
The sad part these days is that no one seems to be making a better account of themselves than Marcos Jr. There should be more. Perhaps they were cut out of the race by Comelec, or they decided to give in to the bakya and palengkero style. I wonder what does it take to bring back true class acts in the country. I think it has to start with the people than the politicians. Perhaps we should run more people through something like a John Robert Powers course?
Debates should not be done as they are doing it. Throwing mud at each other and giving accusations here and there. These candidates should understand that the real essence of these debates is to show the voting public how capable and qualified they are to be future leaders of the country. Instead of criticizing what their opponents did not do or have not done in the past, they should focus on laying their platforms and giving concrete solutions for the many pre-existing problems we already have. I think that the best thing to debate about is their capability to put all their plans and promises into action and not by accusing or blaming their opponents. Ang lumalabas niyan parang batuhan lang ng putik. Kung sino pinakamagaling umilag, mag-ayos at magmalinis, siya magmumukhang busilak sa mata ng tao at siya ding mananalo. Kaya hindi umaasenso bansa natin dahil andaing utak biya pa din hanggang ngayon.
Sanay na ang mga Pilipino, kapag eleksyon, siraan ng siraan mga kandidato, para sa mahihirap ang plataporma pero pagkatapos at manalo sila, wala ng pangako, nganga mga bumoto habang silang mga nanalo nagpapasasa sa kaban ng Pilipinas kaya hanggang ngayon Nganga pa rin ang kawawang pilipino. Ngayon matalino na mga tao ALAM kung SINO ang DAPAT IBOTO sawangsawa na sa “dada” kaya Ang NAPILI BBM sa VP may dugong PRES. FM may nagagawa at malasakit sa bansang Pilipinas. Sana nga pagka Presidente na lang pinili niya.
wasn’t it during that day that overseas voting already started and quite coincidental that BBM annunced that he wanted to head the Department of Labor and Emp.? Coincidental, or, strategic? there’s 7 million voters there.
Actually, he already expressed his desire to be the secretary of DOLE a couple of weeks ago in a radio interview. I forgot what radio station it was, but it’s probably lurking in the web somewhere..
BBM is very professional in the debate he maintained His composure and never get angry even all his opponent attacks him, adding also the hecklers which is very disturb in the debate they look like uncivilized people
#BBM2016
With this, I hav to bow also to BBM and or not to oblige the Marcoses to return the stolen wealth bcoz nabigyan po ako ng ‘nutribun’ bago mag Martial Law.
Hi, thank you for the replies I got on my earlier post regarding the debt. Sir Red gave a good illustration. May I ask your views regarding the human rights violation during those time? The tortured and the disappeared? Was the Marcoses behind it or not? Please enlighten me again regarding this. Thanks!
Sanay na ang mga Pilipino, kapag eleksyon, siraan ng siraan mga kandidato, para sa mahihirap ang plataporma pero pagkatapos at manalo sila, wala ng pangako, nganga mga bumoto habang silang mga nanalo nagpapasasa sa kaban ng Pilipinas kaya hanggang ngayon Nganga pa rin ang kawawang pilipino. Ngayon matalino na mga tao ALAM kung SINO ang DAPAT IBOTO sawangsawa na sa “dada” kaya Ang NAPILI BBM sa VP may dugong PRES. FM may nagagawa at malasakit sa bansang Pilipinas. Sana nga pagka Presidente na lang pinili niya.
It’s pretty obvious that Cayetano was attacking Bong Bong not only on a personal level but very below the belt because Bong Bong is now leading the race for the VP post. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that former President Marcos indeed committed atrocities, engaged in nefarious activties et al during his term, still the lives of the average Filipino family back then was way way better even after Cory and the Presidents next to her took over. Trouble with these politicians nowadays is their lack of delicadeza. When JPE, during one of the deliberations in the Senate, accused Cayetano’s father Rene of taking some monies with him from the PECABAR law office he said that his father can no longer answer the former’s accusations due to obvious reason. But why the heck is he blaming BBM for the sins of the latter’s father. How old was Bong Bong when Martial Law was declared. Barely turned 15. Did BBM participate, whether directly or indirectly and benefited from all of these? I don’t know if Cayetano is really serious in winning the VP post. If he is, then he should start re-thinking his strategies to win the voters’ nod. In the recently concluded VP debate aired via CNN Phils., Cayetano was running berserk while BBM was so cool. And, if for some reason, should Cayetano (together wiht his ilk, kiln and what have you) succeeded in blocking BBM’s way to Vice Presidency, I would rather see either Senator Gringo Honasan or Congresswoman Leni Robredo (who was a big revelation on that debate)getting the VP seat. No Siree, not Chiz “the cunning” Escudero or Antonio “so much balls” Trillanes IV. I guess it’s high time to really vote for the right candidates. As for the Presidency, well, it’s an altogether different matter. Need I say more?
Imagine the days back in the provinces. where people live in fear. Trucks passes every night full of dead bodies of soldiers. Imagine how strict it was that if you travel alone. Theyll arrest uou and accuse you of being an NPA. Youre put to jail. Your wife raped even before they can see you inside the cell. Commodity is hard because everything is blocked by the guards of each gate through the town. Soldiers plunder your house, they take stuff from your grocery store. Soldiers calls the shots on their own will. Imagine if you knew a Marcos cronie that can transfer trust bonds per million in just one page of a paper.
Point is you didnt live in the horrors of that time. Argue with a martial law victim and they may kill you themselves. Kill the padrino system if you owe them. The ramualdez n marcos is a scary clan. But the innocense snd stupidity of the people is just glaring all around us. Yes it is true. people are stupid now these days. they base choices on hear says and tabloids. #foolishfollowers #goodlucktous
>>Implying none of these have ever happened after Marcos left
>>Implying changing one political clan to another is freedom
>>Implying the stupidity began during Marcos’ time and not the post-Marcos years
#ahahahahahafaggot #goodlucktoyellowzombieslikeyourself
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My God! You voting for Marcos?
We will be the laughing stock of the whole world if we do that. Filipinos asked for Marcos to step down last 1980’s and now we are bringing his son to the 2nd highest position of the country…. where’s the logic on that?
And yes, he cannot ask forgiveness for his father but he never showed empathy towards the Martial Law victims- there were women who were ganged-raped because they were activists. There were men who were electrocuted. And not only that, before Martial Law, Philippines was one of the richest country in Asia and after Martial Law, we are one of the poorest country until now. Richer are getting richer and the number of poor people are increasing.
My father also experienced brutality of Marcos regime. He was just a History teacher explaining to the students about the ill-effects of Martial Law. After a few days, a group of men riding a motorcycle went to our house and threatened my lola and ordered her to inform his son-in-law that he should stop his lecture against Marcos. My parents were quite scared when they heard that. And to think my mother was pregnant at that time.
My father was only discussing his view! And just imagine, we cannot speak our minds, and I’m sure if social media (FB, Twitter, Instagram) existed that time, those who are posting anti-government remarks will be penalized.
Now you tell me I-vote-for-Marcos should a Marcos be a part of this government. My answer is a big NO.
And by the way, ang kapal ng mukha ng mga Marcos. They still run for offices despite of their corruption. Other countries, nag suicide na sila for bringing their family name to shame!
Son, you should changer your username to FAIL AKO. And here is why:
We are ALREADY the laughingstock of the whole world after Marcos left. And to tell you, only the HAKOT crowd Filipinos “asked” for Marcos to step down and what’s next? The deluge. In case you don’t notice, many people are trying to bring Marcos’ son to the 2nd highest position because of one thing: Yellow incompetence.
And yes, people like you are overrating his atrocities. And you’re implying that there are no atrocities AFTER Marcos? Please, don’t take them out of the equation because you’re making a fool of yourself if you did that. As the words of GRP residential commenter Add said this:
And no, after Marcos left, we are indeed one of the poorest countries until now. It wasn’t Marcos to be blamed but the people after him. Take note of that.
Lemme tell you about this: my father lived through the Martial law years. And in contrary to what you’re dad says, it’s just the opposite: nothing bad has happened to him. You people love to overrate his atrocities yet there are people who found out the truth that it is also a time where society is disciplined. I wanna ask: what the hell did your father do anyway?
Here’s something you need to know:
About social media: Singapore has it yet they were still one of the best countries to live in. Seems you’re fine with “freedom of speech” rather than something fruitful like “freedom from poverty.” You’re actually fine because you love your fellow kababayans starving and you say “So what? At least we are free to speak our minds.” What’s the use of freedom if there is no responsibility and discipline?
Now you tell me I-vote-for-Marcos should a Marcos be a part of this government. My answer is a big WHY NOT?.
And in case you don’t notice, mas makapal ang mukha ng mga Aquino. They are still worshiped as demi-gods from people like you despite of their incompetence, stupidity and corruption, worse than the Marcos. Oh yeah, that’s cultural difference.
If I were you, son, set your priorities for once. EMO fags are not welcome in this site. Remember that.
LiterallyMe, I’m loving and enjoying your comments. Oh, yeah! What did his father do anyway? Highly probable that the father is a commie or a sympathizer. in
I’m sure your there were more reasons why your father was threatened. He probably had some radical ideas that did not sit well with some of the students (which goes to show how much faith the people had in the police/armed forces at that time, that they went to all the trouble reporting it to authorities). And what do i mean about radical? Communist views, of course! Now, before you toot your horn, i believe that communism is the best form of government – on paper. When it comes to real-world application, well, not so much. Why does it sit well with activists like KMU? because if applied, it will cause the oligarchies to crumble, everything will be state-owned, and EVERYBODY will have to do their share of work to make this country great. Why does it not does not sit well with most of us? its because we value freedom. and capitalism, hahaha.
Insurgency during those times were quelled immediately to avoid what happened to china. What if the communist ideals were sown onto the youth of the 70s? we couldve had our own version of the Great Leap Forward, our own Tiananmen Square, instead we had… Martial Law and Plaza Miranda.
I guess if FM was never there and aquino was in power then… well, we’d probably all be commies right now, and you know what – we wouldnt be having this conversation because we’d probably be too busy working for less than minimum wage in a factory for 16 hours a day. But in that alternate universe, the nation would be great, just like china today.
I may add something: China became one of the fastest-growing economies in the world because of one thing: they learned a lot from Singapore. They have a free economic policy and the rest is history.
Baliktarin kaya natin. Paano ang gagawin mo kapag naging Communists ang Pilipinas dahil pinabayaan ni Marcos at walang Martial law at nasa kamay (Communists) nila ang kapangyarihan?
Where in the article that the author said that he will vote for marcos? Specifics or you’re just a drama queen you fake patriot!
And actually, we are already a laughingstock in the world even before marcos seated thanks to the dysfunctional mindset of failipinos like you who always uses your heart instead of your head.
Son, you should changer your username to FAIL AKO. And here is why:
We are ALREADY the laughingstock of the whole world after Marcos left. And to tell you, only the HAKOT crowd Filipinos “asked” for Marcos to step down and what’s next? The deluge. In case you don’t notice, many people are trying to bring Marcos’ son to the 2nd highest position because of one thing: Yellow incompetence.
And yes, people like you are overrating his atrocities. And you’re implying that there are no atrocities AFTER Marcos? Please, don’t take them out of the equation because you’re making a fool of yourself if you did that. As the words of GRP residential commenter Add said this:
And no, after Marcos left, we are indeed one of the poorest countries until now. It wasn’t Marcos to be blamed but the people after him. Take note of that.
Lemme tell you about this: my father lived through the Martial law years. And in contrary to what you’re dad says, it’s just the opposite: nothing bad has happened to him. You people love to overrate his atrocities yet there are people who found out the truth that it is also a time where society is disciplined. I wanna ask: what the hell did your father do anyway?
Here’s something you need to know:
About social media: Singapore has it yet they were still one of the best countries to live in. Seems you’re fine with “freedom of speech” rather than something fruitful like “freedom from poverty.” You’re actually fine because you love your fellow kababayans starving and you say “So what? At least we are free to speak our minds.” What’s the use of freedom if there is no responsibility and discipline?
Now you tell me I-vote-for-Marcos should a Marcos be a part of this government. My answer is a big WHY NOT?.
And in case you don’t notice, mas makapal ang mukha ng mga Aquino. They are still worshiped as demi-gods from people like you despite of their incompetence, stupidity and corruption, worse than the Marcos. Oh yeah, that’s cultural difference.
If I were you, son, set your priorities for once. EMO fags are not welcome in this site. Remember that.
What if natuloy ang martial law maging kagaya kaya tayo ng Singapore kaprogresibo? Tanong ko lang po.
Martial Law was lifted in 1981. Peronang sabi ni Lee Kuan Yew is “ang kailangan natin ay DISIPLINA at hindi demokrasya”.
Depende sa leader. Kung si Lee Kuan Yew, pwede. Pero kung si FM, lugmok na tayong Pilipino at more than 1M sana ang martial law victims
You’re missing the point. Mas lugmok tayong mga Filipino nung umalis si Marcos and it seems your delusional to think that there are no killings after he left. Nandyan pa rin iyan. You’re just clueless.
Baliktarin kaya natin. Paano ang gagawin mo kapag naging Communists ang Pilipinas dahil pinabayaan ni Marcos at walang Martial Law,at nasa kamay nila (Communists) ang kapangyarihan?
Hey yellowturd. Lee Kuan Yew’s disciplining of his people is similar to what marcos did because the former actually learned that leadership from the latter. Ang hirap sa iyo bobong yellowturd, martial law ang tinitingnan mo kay marcos. Ikaw at ng pamilya mo ay mga komunista nung panahon ni marcos na nagbibigay ng gulo ano?
At first, they’ll only dislike what you say, but the more correct you start sounding the more they’ll dislike you.
I don’t pretend to know everything; I just only speak on matters I know I’ll win.
If you’ve got the truth you can demonstrate it. Talking doesn’t prove it.
In all debates, let truth be thy aim, not victory, or an unjust interest.
yung kinita mo sa pagiging contractual minus your daily expences should be equals to savings.. and yung savings mo is equal sa puhunan mo para sa pagaaply ulit ng panibagong work minsan kulang pa ipapangutang pa vice-versa.. BBM really understood the roots of poverty..
So, this is all about Marcos huh! Are you promoting Marcos? Is this article paid by the Marcoses? Sira kayo lahat! Noon pa walang personalan ang debate kaya nangyari tuloy ang mga mahihirap napapasok sa bulsa ng mga tatahimik lamang. Kung hindi yan binulgar ni Cayetano, malalalman ba ang katotohanan sa mga citizens??? Puwit kayo. Dahil kayo lamang ay takot kung yayaman ang lahat na mga Pilipino! mga sakim kayo! isispin nyo naman yong mga hindi nakaka alam sa takbo ng laro jan sa malacanang! tingnan mo na tatahimik lang yang mga ugag sa upoan! na isahan kaming mga mahihirap dahil sa inyo! mga puta kayo! wala kayong ibang iniisp kung hindi sarili nyo lamang! mabuti nga yan at ibinulgar ni cayetano at na bisto ang style nilang mga pinasahud ng mamamayan! tapos sabihin nyo pang BBM sa DOLE! ngayon mo pa ba yan sasabihin dahil election? kung magaling sya jan at bakit hinihintay nyang tatakbo pa sa VP? sobra din naman kayong maka tulak sa mga mahihirap! naghhihirap na ang mga tao sa pinas! nabubulag ka na ba at nabibingi? sasabihin mo pang harsh! e ikaw kung tahimik ka na lang kaya!bakit ka pa pa article article pa? binabayaran ka lang di ba? at ANG ARTICLE MO AY ITOY NAG PO PROMOTE KAY BBM! HUWAG MO KAMING AWOING TANGA. IKAW AY ISANG MINAMAYARI NI MARCOS! KAHIT ANO PA ANG ANGOLO SA SINUSULAT MO AY KITANG KITA ANG PAG POPROMOTE MO SA MANOK MONG BBM!
KAYA KUNG AKO IKAW TULUNGAN MO NA LANG MAKA AHON ANG BANSA NATIN SA KAHIRAPAN. KUNG AYAW MONG MAG AAWAY TAYO, TIGIL MO NA ANG PANGANGAWAY MO JAN SA KANILA! HAYAAN MO NA SILA NG MAG AWAY KUNG AYAW MO NA ANG GULO. HUWAG MO NANG DAGDAGAN PA. KAYA NGA DEBATE EH. KUNG GUSTO HINDI TULAD SA NAGYAYRI SA DEBATE THEN HUWAG NA IDAAN SA DEBATE. MAG PA PRESS KA NA LANG AT INTERVIEW. HUWAG NA SABIHING DEBATE! KA BORING NYO NAMAN KUNG ANG GUSTO MO WRITER ANG MATUTUPAD! OBOB! HINDI KA DEBATOR! MAS MAGALING KA PA KAY CAYETANO!
Spoken like a point-missing EMOtard. Puro kantyaw lang ang banat :))
Sensya na, pero ikaw na lang ang tumahimik dahil halatang WALA KANG ALAM.
There is something you need to know:
DOLE is under the executive branch of the government and do you think being a secretary of every executive branch is elected just like a senator, congressman and every barangay officer? Nope, they were appointed by none other than the president himself. Do you think Mar Roxas was elected as DILG secretary? No, he was appointed by Noynoy.
And if you think this article is promoting BBM, you are blinded with your own mindless rage and emotive bickering. Bongbong showed class and decency while Cayetano does the opposite. It seems you never watched Cayetano over the years. He’s a good prosecutor and stuff but as vice-president? He’s more fit at the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee due to his polarizing character. In fact, he’s the opposite of his father, the late Rene “Compañero” Cayetano, who is an actual gentleman.
And please, you didn’t even know what a debate is and how it works. A debate is a formal contest of argumentation between two teams or individuals. Sorry to tell you, but what Alan did is informal. And you should know what the term “ad hominem” means: it’s a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. Iyan ang ginawa ni Cayetano kay BBM.
So tama na ang pagiging isip bata mo and set your priorities for once. Ika nga ni Jim Cornette: Thank you, fuck you, bye! 🙂
Hi, Filipino ako.. really you dont know nothing.. Sigurahin mo na ang ibinibintang mo kay marcos ay may prueba ka sa court at nanalo kayo sa court ng dilawan.?? Do you have any evidence of your accusation?? If you dont show your proof or evidence, you better shut up ok…/ Pwede ba magresearch ka, hindi iyong hearsay at sa mga tv network ng mga dilawan ang nalalaman mo. Magresearch ka filipino ako.otherwise You are absolutely NOTHING…