To all Lea Salonga bashers: Get Real, the Phlippines did not gain independence in 1898!

So now Lea Salonga is suddenly labelled talangka (crab-like) because of her supposedly anti-Pinoy tweet. The trouble with Filipino international superstar Lea Salonga is that she is tweeting to a bobo audience. She may have millions of followers but that number is more a case of quantity and less of quality.

But I don’t really know what it is about her tweet that so riles up Pinoy nationalist sensibilities…

Our country is not yet debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, or corruption-free. So what are we free from exactly and why do we celebrate it?

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See, the thing I don’t understand is that GRP people here have for so long harped on the topic of the questionable nature of the supposed “independence” we celebrate on June 12, 1898. I mean, WTF, we have an extensive body of work where we deliver real thinking on the real deal about Philippine Independence! Why do we celebrate something we did not achieve at all?? But then a celeb like Lea goes off and tweets something to the same effect and out of the woodwork scurries all the cockroaches in a frenzy over the outrage of even questioning the wisdom of celebrating Philippine “independence” on June 12.

And, yeah, there’s lots to question about the belief that June 12, 1898 marks the Philippines’ “Independence Day”. Here is a Facebook note posted by John Silva which Lea also shared on Twitter following the brouhaha raised by her ealier tweet…

As for 117 years, advertisers delude themselves. A year later, June 12, 1899, war had been declared months before between the Philippines and the United States, and I don’t believe there was any mood for commemorating the event because the country was not independent in reality. The following June 12’s until July 4 1946 cannot be remembered as “independent” because we were a colony, transitioning to a 1935 commonwealth without full sovereignty, and invaded to be a Japanese colony. That totals 47 years and should be subtracted from 117. That leaves us 70 years of a status that really asserts no dependency with another country, in effect, independent.

Silva was referring to the 117 years since 1898 that we consider to be an “independent” Philippines. There’s that small detail of the American colonial government that ruled for half a century since 1898. How do Filipinos describe that period? Indepenent ka mo??

In the end, Silva kinda disappoints because he reverts back to the safe side of the discussion writing, “Despite it all, I do acknowledge and commemorate that a republic was born today by a declaration in Kawit, Cavite by a man under 30 years old with a coterie of other brilliant, wealthy, and patriotic gentlemen. Emilio Aguinaldo went against all odds but he was determined to fulfill the aspirations of a people.”

Zzzzz… Bilib na sana ako. People really have big problems with reality — which is not surprising because as we can see in Silva’s ok na sana blurb, Filipinos lack edge in their routine thinking.

What’s wrong nga ba with celebrating Philippine Independence on July 4? I mean, it is still debatable whether the Philippines was truly independent after July 4, 1946. But at least it is quite clear that we were, at least on paper, no longer a colony of another country.

I leave you with this gem. One of the anti-Lea tweets that represents quintessential Pinoy thinking:

Lea Salonga is a living proof why Filipinos are typically stereotyped as having crab mentalities! Lea Talangka Salonga! Yak!

Oh, the irony! 😉

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Dale Gozar
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KALAYAAN ba ang tawag dito? By Dale Gozar, June 12, 2015 Sa ika-117 taon pagdiriwan ng Kalayaan (kuno) ng Pilipinas ay masasabi mo ba talaga na ang Pilipino ay tunay na may KALAYAAN? Ang tunay na KALAYAAN ay hinde maaring mangyari o makamtam kung wala ang: 1. FREEDOM from HUNGER Kung ang nakakarami sa atin mga kababayan natin ay GUTOM o walang makain, dahil sa walang matinong/magandang trabaho o kabuhayan sa sarili nilang Bansa. Dumaraming mga ang pulubi/namalilimos, payatot (malnourished), child labor/abuse, prostitution, nakawan, etc. 2. FREEDOM from INEQUALITY Kung saan iilan lamang sa atin Lipunan ang tunay na maunlad… Read more »
Cesar Manalang
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I agree with Lea Salonga, we Filipinos never gain our independence until now, we are physically independent but slave by most foreign businessmen and corrupt govt officials.

Sunshine Manalo
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No Country in the world in today is truly independent! Each one is inter-dependent with the others. North Korea is trying to be but in reality it is still not! If that’s the case and if that’s the standard then the Philippines’ case is Not that isolated but shared by everyone else bigtime!

Attila
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foreign businessmen? That means the Chinese. Most Filipinos already working for Chinese own businesses in the Philippines.

domo
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That anti-Lea tweet is a proof that this country is filled with failipinos who always use their heart instead of their brain because they are stuck from watching too much stupid shows especially telebasuras and those dongyan fantards attacking Ilda’s article are no exception as well.

Mo
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Kasali ba sa mga “failipinos” ang mga pseudo-intelligent who are stuck from watching too much foreign “kenkoys”?!

domo
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Oh look may sumawsaw na bobo. What makes you think that I’m watching “kenkoy” shows? Specifics or you’re just another asshurt trolling this site.

domo
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Oh and I bet you’re one of those morons going hostile against Lea’s tweet.

Mo
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Did you use your brain when you decided to answer my straightforward question? I noticed that a lot of GRP rah-rah boys are fans of foreign anime programs. So i just simply ask a question? If others can have their cartoons fix why go against others if they prefer as you said their “stupid shows”?!

Mo
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” Specifics or you’re just another asshurt trolling this site.”

One more thing, it seems na hindi mo pa pala naintidihan ang tanong jumping to conclusion ka agad! Intelligent?!

domo
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First of all, I’m sorry if I misunderstand you. Are you implying that I’m doing your misguided crab mentality? To answer your question, unlike those stupid local shows I’ve mentioned, many foreign shows make us think. I mean, palagi na lang bang paulit-ulit na drama’t kwento ang dapat ipalabas ng mga local drama shows? Dapat na lang bang puro tungkol sa kahirapan na lang? And are you implying that anime is kenkoy and childish only because it’s animated? Bobong logic iyan FYI. Please read this series of alternate media articles by Grimwald starting with this one: http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2015/02/alternative-media-what-most-pinoys-are-missing/ And also read… Read more »
domo
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* Are you implying that I’m doing colonial mentality?

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Crispolo
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@domo How can one use a brain if they don’t have any? They are plain and simple Zombies.

domo
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It’s sad really. They are too blind to see the harsh reality because they are stuck with their fantasies that everything will be always okay.

Crispolo
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How can one use a brain if they don’t have any? They are plain and simple Zombies.

d_forsaken
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Freedom and Independence: To ask nothing. To expect nothing. To depend on nothing.

Mo
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Is there such a thing?! Kung may alam ka eh by all means brother, I also want to know!

ANNEE LONGLEY
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I always thought Lea Salonga a clever girl from the first time i saw her in London years ago, her tweet proves she is beyond clever! Keep your thinking cap on Leah, there should always be one!!!!!!

brandon
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i couldn’t agree more Miss Lea,, kaya di sumusulong ang bansa sa pag unlad dahil nagbubulag bulagan o nabubulagan ang iba dyan sa totoong estado ng Pilipinas. Dahil na rin sa pina-OA na demokrasya kunu,, kaya pati ka-imoralan akala nila ay parte pa din ng demokrasya. Gumagawa na ng sariling batas ang mga tao,, dahil akala nila ay demokrasya pa din haist…

ChinoF
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Filipinos have yet to be free from their overinflated egos.

sonny lucero
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Correct , thats the reason chinese prospers ,they try took as humble as they could but beneath poor looking people as they are, are wealth that can buy the world.We are all entitled to our own opinion, that’s freedom can’t they notice that. Leah can say what she wants ,we can comment what we want. We can express want we want . I think we are already free.

BING BONG
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@ Ms.Kate, Lea Solonga had ‘Ms. Vietnam’ fame in the USA for whatever that play was called .I saw it in L.A. w/the helicopter landing on the stage,and all, but by then,Ms.Solonga was not even in the touring version of the show.( I know a young lady today, that was actually on that last helicopter out of the USA Embassy in Saigon during May 1975 as a hideously Napalm Burned 5 yr. old,today she lives in NYC….her nickname is ‘Miss Vietnam’,seriously.) IDK what Ms.Salonga has done since but she had a better and more profitable 15 minutes of fame than… Read more »
Joeffrey
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tagalugin mo na lang kasi, mas maiintindihan ka namin.

domo
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Bumalik ka nga sa elementary at matuto ka ulit ng English para maintindihan mo.

toto
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Role ni miss LEA sa Miss Saigon ay POKPOK. Yan ang Pinagmamalaki nyang Role sa buhay nya… na portrait nya yun ng maayus… Lea your the best!

0077Toro00777Hayden
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I have never seen a country on the face of this Planet Earth, that is: poverty free and crime free. Debt free , maybe…

Lea Salonga will be better off, by just stay in her singing career. An not open her mouth, that talks nonsense…

nagtatanong_lang
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@0077Toro00777Hayden..i’ve read most of your posts and have agreed most on what you said..this one though i have to disagree with you. we need more lea salonga’s to bring forth what we have been talking about here in GRP for a long time…send a wake up call to all Filipinos..something is wrong with our country and changes have to be made if we ever want to see a better Philippines..kaso lang mas marami pa rin ang nasa denial stage..just like those who bashed lea..deny pa rin ng deny..ok lang ang Pilipinas?

Nagtatanong Lang Din
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“to bring forth what we have been talking about here in GRP for a long time…send a wake up call to all Filipinos..something is wrong with our country and changes have to be made if we ever want to see a better Philippines”

Really now…this I want to see! Where is it?! After the bashing, the band-wagoning…then what?! Educate us…seriously!

0557Hayden007Toro
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You have the right to disagree…it is your prerogative…

Thanks for reading my posts…I appreciate it…

222Hyden007Toro9999.99
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222Hyden007Toro9999.99

@nagtanon_lang:

You have the right to disagree with me. It is thru the differences of opinions, that we can grow intellectually.

If you will agree with all the GRP bloggers: that is where , I would be concerned…

chocolatemilk
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Gurl, we can never have a poverty/crime/debt- free country. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to have one. And we can’t do that if bulag2x-an tayo.

Salonganisa
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The United States of America, despite of being the most powerful country in the world, is not debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, nor corruption-free!

domo
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Still, it’s not an excuse to justify what Lea said.

Vincent
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So what if the United States is as what you said? What’s your point? It is still not hopeless for the Ph?

Salonganisa
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Ride on brother! The point is NO country in the World can claim of a true and valid independence from the family of nations!

So Lea is NOT CORRECT when she use the premise with her assertions!

I challenge anyone in GRP to name a country who doesn’t in anyway depend on another country for whatever!

Dampi
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Sino kaya sa mga matatalinong kasapi ng komunidad ng GRP ang mau-unang makasagot sa katanungang ito?

Vincent
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I will not dispute that statement that no country can claim true independence as you are asserting. However, when I said in my other comment to read her message beyond the text what I mean is think about what she means. I’ll grant that she seem rude or mean or harsh the way she said it (although I don’t really. Just look at how the Chinese are bashing Filipinos in Yahoo! comments) but to me that is not the issue. Focus on what she said: 1)”Our country is not yet debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, or corruption-free.” – she presented a problem… Read more »
Vincent
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Lastly, I said in my other that if you don’t agree with Lea’s comment and everyone who sides with her then show proof that she/we are wrong. Face the comment squarely instead of resorting to name-calling which does not prove any point at all and no wisdom is ever realized. Otherwise, maybe the ChinoF’s comment that (some)”Filipinos have yet to be free from their overinflated egos” is correct. Why? They retaliate impulsively.

Estrel
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Lea Salonga knows her country’s history. Whoever is bashing her is the ignorant one, the one with crab mentality … Sila ang takangka if they cannot see the reality of what Philippibes is like today.

Kay
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This guy is one of them. And his tweet has been posted around the ‘net.

Don Toledo
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Emilio Aguinaldo proclaimed independence Day on June 12 but only in Cavite. The Spaniards was defeated by the US which controlled most of the Philippine territories. Aquinaldo was also a murderer coz he was the brains of killing Andres Bonifacio, a true revolutionary hero. I remember we celebrated Indeendence Day on July 4th when I was young snd saw the parade at the Luneta. It was GMA’s dad Dado Macapagal who changed it to June 12 which is not really true. Kaya mga pinoy are out of touch sa true history.

andrew
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twisted ang kasaysayan natin. we are conditioned to be ignorant from the truth to keep us under control.

and I don’t see Jose Rizal as a Hero. I only see him as an intelligent man who I can look up to and agree with. lol.

Whew
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“I don’t see Jose Rizal as a Hero. I only see him as an intelligent man who I can look up to and agree with. lol.”

Huh???!!! Napaka-LOL nga talaga!!!!

juantanga
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Vote Lito Lapid

Kay
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Ladies and gentlemen, the typical “pinoy”. Believes in “freedom”… UNLESS you have different opinions about the Philippines, after which you’re labeled as an “anti pinoy”.

Ric
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I agree! Independence from colonization should have been the starting point of attaining full freedom. As Leah Salonga said, “Our country is not yet debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, or corruption-free. So what are we free from exactly and why do we celebrate it?” We can not be free if all of those are still existing. It illustrates dependency.

Gail
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“Our country is not yet debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, or corruption-free. So what are we free from exactly and why do we celebrate it?” ARE YOU MISSING THE POINT COMPLETELY? Is the Philippines waving an a American flag over Malacanang? For that matter is America or any other country debt, poverty, crime, or corruption free? Those are problems of any society because they are human problems. The reason we must continue to celebrate Independence day is because…and again, please don’t miss the entire point here, is to commemorate those who have actually DIED for our ability to chart our OWN DESTINY….do… Read more »
domo
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And your mindset is full of escapism because you only want to hear anything positive in order to make yourself feel better while being a total ignoramus and a coward for not giving a damn about our country’s horrible situation. You’re just another fake patriot pretending to be patriotic.

Fuego
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When something negative is written about the Filipinos and the Philippines, the rah-rah boys of GRP rejoice and celebrate! The feeling of “naka-puntos” is paradoxical! The “we-belong-atittude’ and the “we-identify-posturings” and the “band-wagoning” is just mind-boggling!

Having this weird mindset critical of a group that you’re a part of, and still consider yourself different and not a party to that group is not only SELF-DENIAL but outright HYPOCRITICAL!

Would a member of a family do that to a father, mother, sister, brother? Huh, Brother?!

DIO
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Seems you’re more HYPOCRITICAL because you’re blinded by your own ego.

Please read the article and stop being an emo prick. Son, you’re missing the point and you just went FULL RETARD with what you wrote.

domo
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Dummkopf! We’re not celebrating those negatives like drunk men. We are so disgusted about it because we are so concerned about this country’s situation. And what’s wrong about saying about bandwagoning when in fact your fellow failipinos always do that as an excuse for their mediocrity?
And no, YOU’RE the one who is being self-denial and a hypocrite because you are too emo and onion-skinned on what we say.

domo
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“We’re not celebrating like drunk men every time some negatives pop up. We are so disgusted about them because we are so concerned about this country’s situation unlike you.”

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PWE GO
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@DIO
@domo

Wala na ba talaga kayong iba na pwedeng idahilan kung bakit lagi kayo ang tama sa tingin nyo?!

Pag hindi nag-agree sa inyo EMO na lagi at missing the point?! As if you have the monopoly of Intellect and Comprehension.

So if we put away the negatives and ask you brainiacs what positive things or likeable facets of filipino culture can you think of, do you have any that find positive for a change?!

Your answer of course would say a lot about your being a filipino!

DIO
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Kelangan ng ‘negative’ para to open minds, analyze the problem and then make a solution.

BTW, the solutions are already here in this site. And it’s OBVIOUS. And speaking of obvious, you still cling on your emotions instead.

Stop being an EMO and set your priorities for once.

PWE GO
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If you already have the solution, where is the result? Don’t play with words!

domo
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The solutions in this site are already here. But I doubt you won’t listen to them because you’re a proud escapist coward. So who’s playing the words now failipino?

Vincent
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What are we to celebrate every June 12? If we are considering independence from Spain, perhaps that is the right reason. However, we should remember that after Spain we had two colonizers. Even after World War II, we are still, for the most part, clinging on to the US for aid. So to me, June 12 should be reviewed if we are to consider seriously “freedom.” I can see different perspectives here: (1) Lea may have a problem keeping her mouth shut or she seem to be a brat and (2) some Filipinos are not used to hearing straightforward messages.… Read more »
Ms. Saigon
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“Please read Lea’s message beyond it’s text. It is not anti-Filipino at all. I can see a wake up call, a challenge.”

I did! And I agree, it’s not anti-Filipino! But it doesn’t sound like it’s a wake up call nor a challenge either!

I see it more of a “YABANG” declaration of a Pretentious Pseudo-Intellectual unmindful of her country’s heritage and history!

Los Indios Bravos et al., nice try…thanks but no thanks!

Vincent
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ok granted Lea is what you said she is (Pretentious Pseudo-Intellectual unmindful of her country’s heritage and history!) what else can you add to counter her comment -“Our country is not yet debt-free, poverty-free, crime-free, or corruption-free. So what are we free from exactly and why do we celebrate it?” Counters that I hope will start with “I beg to disagree…” or “You’re wrong because…” or “That is not true because…” By the way, I just want to tell everyone I am not a fan of Lea nor do I watch The Voice (the hell I care who’s winning there).… Read more »
nagtatanong_lang
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the tweet was in a form of a question that may or may not need an answer depending on who was reading it…i think it was meant to get the reader to think if it is really worth it to celebrate independence day considering all the things that are happening around us..or simply to get the reader to think, are we really free in the real sense of the word? freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want and freedom from fear..are we enjoying these freedoms to call ourselves independent?

xxxxx
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To equate debt-free, crime-free, poverty-free, corruption free to the june 12 declaration of independence is clearly a product of an intelligent mind. The declaration of independence is a collective sentiment of the Filipino people at that time to express their independence from foreign bondage. Does it matter that we were still occupied by the Americans and Japanese after? No. Because independence is something the people express and declare. It is not given by the foreign occupant. Of course, the intelligent people would argue that declaration is useless if there is no actual independence. Again that argument misses the point of… Read more »
Victor M.
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Well said. It seems that the likes of Lea won’t honor any independence day unless the country is debt-free, crime-free, poverty-free, corruption free or in short, when pigs can fly.

Erwin
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Independence from other country but still slaved by our own corrupt government. We are not free.

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