My sympathy to all victims of bombs, violence, aggression and imperialism and US Global Domination

While doing my usual virtual activity to my surprise and amusement, I run across an article from the so-called The Society of Honor by Joe America maliciously entitled “Sympathy to the Boston Bomber?” criticizing my article “The Boston Bombing and the US government’s history of mass murder” posted by GetReal Philippines.COM on April 19th.

Bombing victims some people have forgotten about
Bombing victims some people have forgotten about

Let the Radical reply to Mr. America.

Here’s the opening statement of the said piece:

I read a Get Real Post article that expresses sympathy with the Boston bomber. Well, not with the bomber’s act, exactly, but with the motive that is likely behind the bomber: bring down US imperialism.

COMMENT:

For the information of all people who care to read any of the posts of this site, let me state for purposes of the records that:

I condoled and sympathized to all the victims of the Boston bombing, not only to the deceased but also to the score of people who were injured by this horrendous and animalistic act.

I have no sympathy whatsoever to the bastard perpetrator of this evil deeds. I condemn his or her or their acts, means, method and motive. They are not human but animals of the worst kind!

In the same vein that I also condemn to the highest possible degree the on-going violence being committed and continuously perpetrated by the US military to the people of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc.

The Boston bomber or bombers are terrorists for killing innocent people and spreading fear to the public and the world.

In the same vein, the United States of America through its military by virtue of the executive order of its president in ordering the use of drone attacks and allowing the dropping of bombs against civilians are also terrorists.

The piece continued and claimed that:

The article begins with a stark condemnation of the bombing and expresses condolences for the young boy who was killed. Then it turns the closing call: “DOWN WITH US IMPERIALISM!!!”

Yes, in caps, three exclamation points.

COMMENT:

Point one: I expressed condolences not only with the young boy but also to the other victims who died.

For the benefit of the world public, let me quote my own article to highlight this important matter:

My condolences to all the victims of this horrible event, namely 8-year-old Martin Richard, 29-year-old Krystle Cambell, and Lu Lingzi, a BU graduate student from China and so as the multitude of people who got injured due to the blasts.

I don’t know whether Mr. America read my article or if he truly read it, how could he missed to quote the other two casualties of this terrorist attacks? Is he blind or he does not want to honor the other two fatalities?

Point two: I also expressed my condolences to the multitude of people who got injured due to the blasts.

QUESTION:

Why Mr. America omitted or did not say so?

Again, I doubt Mr. America’s claim that he read my article.

The ‘critic’ continued and stated that:

In other words, this blog writer is sympathetic to the motives of the bomber. Make no mistake about that. It is not a call for understanding, or compassion. It is a clarion call of hate raised loud and clear on that bastion of blogging integrity Get Real Post.

COMMENT:

I do not know what is wrong with this writer! His accusation is not only preposterous, but utterly out of order.

I have no sympathy whatsoever to the motives or desires or design or methods used by the bomber! I consider that bastard as a mass murderer and an evil creature.

There is no difference with the Boston bomber from that of a US pilot dropping bombs and a US soldier stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. — ALL OF THEM ARE TERRORISTS!!!

Make no mistake about that!

My sympathy and solidarity is with all the people (regardless of their nationality, sex, gender, religious creed, race, ethnicity and irrespective of whether or not they are American or not) who are victims of violence, aggression and imperialism.

It is on this great sense that I concurred with Professor Dr. Cornel West when he said that:

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” — #MLK Praying for our brothers and sisters EVERYWHERE…from Boston to Baghdad.

Mr. America even accused my article for sowing misunderstanding and doubted my compassion.

It also charged my article as “a clarion call of hate raised loud and clear on that bastion of blogging integrity Get Real Post.”

My I remind him that the duty of the intellectual is to “speak the truth and to expose lies.”

On November-December, 2003, Professor Noam Chomsky was interviewed by David Barsamian of the Socialist Review (“Telling the Truth about Imperialism”); let us consider a portion of the said exchanges:  

Barsamian: TRADITIONALLY IF you used the word “imperialism” and attached the word “American” in front of it, you were immediately dismissed as a member of some far left fringe. That has undergone a bit of a transformation in the last few years. Let’s just take Michael Ignatieff, for one. Son of a Canadian diplomat, he’s at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard where he is Carr Professor of Human Rights Policy. He writes in a New York Times Magazine cover story on July 28, 2002, “America’s entire war on terrorism is an exercise in imperialism.” Then he adds, “Imperialism used to be the white man’s burden,” echoing Kipling. “This gave it a bad reputation. But imperialism doesn’t stop being necessary just because it becomes politically incorrect.” On January 5, 2003, in yet another cover story in the New York Times Magazine, he writes, “America’s empire is not like the empires of times past, built on colonies, conquests and the white man’s burden…. The 21st century imperium is a new invention in the annals of political science, an empire lite, a global hegemony whose grace notes are free markets, human rights, and democracy, enforced by the most awesome military power the world has ever known.” And he has a new book out, called Empire Lite.

Chomsky: OF COURSE, the apologists for every other imperial power have said the same thing. So you can go back to John Stuart Mill, one of the most outstanding Western intellectuals, now we’re talking about the real peak of moral integrity and intelligence. He defended the British Empire in very much those words. John Stuart Mill wrote the classic essay on humanitarian intervention. Everyone studies it in law schools. What he says is, Britain is unique in the world. It’s unlike any country before it. Other countries have crass motives and seek gain and so on, but the British act only for the benefit of others. In fact, he said, Our motives are so pure that Europeans can’t understand us. They heap “obloquy” upon us and they seek to discover crass motives behind our benevolent actions. But everything we do is for the benefit of the natives, the barbarians. We want to bring them free markets and honest rule and freedom and all kinds of wonderful things. Today’s version is just illustrating Marx’s comment about tragedy being repeated as farce…

I hate the US government specifically it’s racist, imperialist factions and its war monger military; but I do not hate the American people specifically its working class and those living at the lowest spectrum of its society.

My objective is to expose and oppose US imperialism and to counter it world domination through my writings, teachings and political activities.

I am not a lone voice in the wilderness that is critical of your country’s standing in the world.

Even Ron Paul, in his book, The Revolution: A Manifesto (2008) stated that:

“It is unreasonable, even utopian, not to expect people to grow resentment, and desirous of revenge, when your government bombs them, supports police states in their countries, and imposes murderous sanctions on them.”

I am also not alone in calling your beloved America the NUMBER ONE TERRORIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

Consider the following individuals:

“In much of the world the U.S. is regarded as a leading terrorist state.”

— Professor Noam Chomsky

“Americans have been taught that their nation is civilized and humane. But, too often, U. S. actions have been uncivilized and inhumane.”

— Professor Howard Zinn

The US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today…

— Dr. Martin Luther Kings

Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go ten thousand miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?

— Muhammad Ali

Look at the American Revolution in 1776. That revolution was for what? For land. Why did they want land? Independence. How was it carried out? Bloodshed. Number one, it was based on land, the basis of independence. And the only way they could get it was bloodshed. The French Revolution — what was it based on? The land-less against the landlord. What was it for? Land. How did they get it? Bloodshed. Was no love lost; was no compromise; was no negotiation. I’m telling you, you don’t know what a revolution is. ‘Cause when you find out what it is, you’ll get back in the alley; you’ll get out of the way. The Russian Revolution — what was it based on? Land. The land-less against the landlord. How did they bring it about? Bloodshed. You haven’t got a revolution that doesn’t involve bloodshed. And you’re afraid to bleed. I said, you’re afraid to bleed.

[As] long as the white man sent you to Korea, you bled. He sent you to Germany, you bled. He sent you to the South Pacific to fight the Japanese, you bled. You bleed for white people. But when it comes time to seeing your own churches being bombed and little black girls be murdered, you haven’t got no blood. You bleed when the white man says bleed; you bite when the white man says bite; and you bark when the white man says bark. I hate to say this about us, but it’s true. How are you going to be nonviolent in Mississippi, as violent as you were in Korea? How can you justify being nonviolent in Mississippi and Alabama, when your churches are being bombed, and your little girls are being murdered, and at the same time you’re going to violent with Hitler, and Tojo, and somebody else that you don’t even know?

If violence is wrong in America, violence is wrong abroad. If it’s wrong to be violent defending black women and black children and black babies and black men, then it’s wrong for America to draft us and make us violent abroad in defense of her. And if it is right for America to draft us, and teach us how to be violent in defense of her, then it is right for you and me to do whatever is necessary to defend our own people right here in this country.

— Malcolm X

… the connection between imperial politics and culture is astonishingly direct. American attitudes to American “greatness”, to hierarchies of race, to the perils of “other” revolutions (the American revolution being considered unique and somehow unrepeatable anywhere else in the world) have remained constant, have dictated, have obscured, the realities of empire, while apologists for overseas American interests have insisted on American innocence, doing good, fighting for freedom.

— Edward W. Said

The “war on terror” is an absurd war against a tactic. It posits the idea of perpetual, or what is now called “generational,” war.  It has no discernable end.  There is no way to define victory. It is, in metaphysical terms, a war against evil, and evil, as any good seminarian can tell you, will always be with us. The most destructive evils, however, are not those that are externalized. The most destructive are those that are internal. These hidden evils, often defined as virtues, are unleashed by our hubris, self-delusion and ignorance. Evil masquerading as good is evil in its deadliest form. 

The decline of American empire began long before the current economic meltdown or the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It began before the first Gulf War or Ronald Reagan. It began when we shifted, in the words of the historian Charles Maier, from an “empire of production” to an “empire of consumption.”  By the end of the Vietnam War, when the costs of the war ate away at Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society and domestic oil production began its steady, inexorable decline, we saw our country transformed from one that primarily produced to one that primarily consumed. We started borrowing to maintain a lifestyle we could no longer afford. We began to use force, especially in the Middle East, to feed our insatiable demand for cheap oil. The years after World War II, when the United States accounted for one-third of world exports and half of the world’s manufacturing, gave way to huge trade imbalances, outsourced jobs, rusting hulks of abandoned factories, stagnant wages and personal and public debts that most of us cannot repay. 

The bill is now due. America’s most dangerous enemies are not Islamic radicals, but those who promote the perverted ideology of national security that, as Andrew Bacevich writes, is “our surrogate religion.” If we continue to believe that we can expand our wars and go deeper into debt to maintain an unsustainable level of consumption, we will dynamite the foundations of our society.

— Chris Hedges

Now, my question to Mr. America is: how about these notable individuals? Are they teaching hate? Are they liars? Are they manipulators?

My objective is in conformity with Professor Chomsky’s theses on his book Hegemony or Survival: America’s Quest for Global Domination. The eminent professor’s arguments as lucidly illustrated by Wikipedia stated that:

“the socio-economic elite who control the United States have pursued an “Imperial Grand Strategy” since the end of World War II in order to maintain global hegemony through military, political and economic means. He argues that in doing so they have repeatedly shown a total disregard for democracy and human rights, in stark contrast to the U.S. government’s professed support for those values. Furthermore, he argues that this continual pursuit of global hegemony now threatens the existence of the human species itself because of the increasing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

“Drawing historical examples from 1945 through to 2003 to support his argument, Chomsky looks at the U.S. government’s support for regimes responsible for mass human rights abuses, including ethnic cleansing and genocide, namely El Salvador, Colombia, Turkey, Israel, Egypt, South Africa and Indonesia. He also discusses U.S. support for militant dissident groups widely considered “terrorists”, particularly in Nicaragua and Cuba, as well as direct military interventions, such as the Vietnam War, NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, Afghan War and Iraq War, in order to further its power and grasp of resources. In doing so, he highlights that U.S. foreign policy – whether controlled by Republican or Democratic administrations – still follows the same agenda of gaining access to lucrative resources and maintaining U.S. world dominance”.

QUESTION:

Is Professor Chomsky a teacher of hate? Is he a manipulator, too?

I wonder how would Mr. America categorize the good professor who is the leading critic of his own government’s foreign policy, world-wide abuses, global domination, violence, and naked imperialism!?  

Mr. America’s tirade continues and stated that:

So the author believes the gut-wrenching sympathy Americans feel about the Boston tragedy is sad because the media tells them to be sad. In other words, there is nothing about the incident on its own merits that calls for sadness. This reveals the author’s own fake condolence in the article, condolence that is merely aimed at posturing himself as a sympathetic man.

COMMENT:

First point: Who owns the media is America?

Second point: the author stated that “there is nothing about the incident on its own merits that calls for sadness.”

This pronouncement is an utter disrespect of Mr. America to all the victims of the Boston bombing.

I do not know whether he is a fake person or a fictitious entity or a stool pigeon of Yankee Imperialism, spokesperson and apologist of corporatist bourgeois US conservative media, but let it appear on the record of these exchange that:

My condolences and solidarity to all the victims of this horrible terrorist attack is true, pure and genuine and that it came from the bottom of my heart.

I extremely sympathize to all those victims of terrorism, not only from Boston but also to all those victims of terrorism from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, etc. — deliberately committed and continuously being committed by Mr. America’s beloved country.

To the other baseless accusation of Mr. America that I am not a sympathetic man, let me state categorically that:

I offer no sympathy whatsoever to all terrorists, colonialists and imperialists especially the government of the United States of America, England, etc. and now the emerging bully of Southeast Asia, China.

All of them can go to hell, but I am going to oppose, expose and counter them to the death through my writings, teachings and political activities.

I hate them all!

To the other charge that I am an angry manipulator, the question there is: what manipulation did I committed or concocted?

The source of my anger is my extreme hate of imperialism of whatever type, kind or form.

I will fight them all!

Assuming arguendo that I am an angry manipulator, then what the hell would you call your war freak Lyndon Johnson’s act during the so-called Gulf of Tonkin incident?

Speak the truth, who manipulated that fake event to justify the horrible, infamous and murderous Vietnam War?

How about your stupid Dubya’s claim in reference to Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction?

Where are the WMDs? Or probably, the precise question to ask should be: where’s now Iraq’s OIL? Ha? Mr. American accuser of manipulation?!

Your war monger country is so good at concocting dubious reasons and utterly impertinent explanations in justifying the continuous act of going to war; and then I am the one that you are accusing of manipulation?

Shame on you sir and shame on your country that nearly bombed almost all the known countries of this planet!

Nearing the end of the article, Mr. America introduce to the reader Dr. Zoltan Grossman “who originally compiled the list” of America’s History of Military Intervention.

Dr. Zoltan Grossman is a professor of geography at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington. His website is at http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz and can be reached at  grossmaz@evergreen.edu.  He is a civilian Member of the Board of G.I. Voice, an antiwar veterans group that runs the Coffee Strong resource center for soldiers outside Fort Lewis.   His list of U.S. military interventions since 1890 is at http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html.  (Source: Common Dreams)

The good doctor has made his mark writing and teaching about US racism and military interventions.  He is an advocate AGAINST war. But he at least appears to teach ideas, not anger.

COMMENT:

I am wondering why to Mr. America, Dr. Grossman appears to teach ideas, but when it comes to me: implied that I only teach hate?

This is preposterous! I do not see any difference from the position of the good doctor from that of my own views.

Nonetheless, let us quote the ideas of the good doctor himself in an article entitled “War and the New US Military Bases”, which appeared on the Weekend Edition of the Counter Punch site, dated February 2-4, 2002.

Here’s what the good doctor said about the beloved America of Mr. America:

Why War?

Geopolitical priorities may help explain why Washington went to war in all these countries, even as paths to peace remained open. President George Bush launched the February 1991 ground war against Iraq, even though Saddam was already withdrawing from Kuwait under Soviet disengagement plan. He also sent forces into Somalia in 1992, even though the famine he used as a justification had already lessened. President Clinton launched a war on Serbia in 1999 to force a withdraw from Kosovo, even though Yugoslavia had already met many of his withdrawal terms at the Rambouillet conference. President George W. Bush attacked Afghanistan in 2001 without having put much diplomatic pressure on the Taliban to surrender Bin Laden, or letting anti-Taliban forces (such as Pashtun commander Abdul Haq) win over Taliban forces on their own. Washington went to war not as a last resort, but because it saw war as a convenient opportunity to further larger goals.

Geopolitical priorities may also help explain the reluctance of the U.S. to declare victory in these wars. If the U.S. had ousted Saddam from power in 1991, his Gulf allies would have demanded the withdrawal of U.S. bases, but his continued hold onto power justifies intensive U.S. bombing of Iraq and a continued hold over the Gulf oil region. The fact that Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar have not been captured in four months of war also provides convenient justification for the permanent stationing of U.S. bases in Central and South Asia. All three men are more useful to U.S. plans if they are alive and free, at least for the time being.

Indeed, the good doctor is a teacher of ideas and I subscribed substantially to all the arguments that he advanced and explicated; yet still I am wondering: what is the difference of his ideas from mine?

Mr. America, what can you say about these words and brilliant ideas of the good doctor? Do you agree with them?

Consider further the good doctor’s analysis of the distinctive common themes of the U. S. military intervention in his A Briefing on the History of U.S. Military Interventions (October 2001) published by the Z Magazine:

COMMON THEMES

Some common themes can be seen in many of these U.S. military interventions.

First, they were explained to the U.S. public as defending the lives and rights of civilian populations. Yet the military tactics employed often left behind massive civilian “collateral damage.” War planners made little distinction between rebels and the civilians who lived in rebel zones of control, or between military assets and civilian infrastructure, such as train lines, water plants, agricultural factories, medicine supplies, etc. The U.S. public always believe that in the next war, new military technologies will avoid civilian casualties on the other side. Yet when the inevitable civilian deaths occur, they are always explained away as “accidental” or “unavoidable.”

Second, although nearly all the post-World War II interventions were carried out in the name of “freedom” and “democracy,” nearly all of them in fact defended dictatorships controlled by pro-U.S. elites. Whether in Vietnam, Central America, or the Persian Gulf, the U.S. was not defending “freedom” but an ideological agenda (such as defending capitalism) or an economic agenda (such as protecting oil company investments). In the few cases when U.S. military forces toppled a dictatorship–such as in Grenada or Panama–they did so in a way that prevented the country’s people from overthrowing their own dictator first, and installing a new democratic government more to their liking.

Third, the U.S. always attacked violence by its opponents as “terrorism,” “atrocities against civilians,” or “ethnic cleansing,” but minimized or defended the same actions by the U.S. or its allies. If a country has the right to “end” a state that trains or harbors terrorists, would Cuba or Nicaragua have had the right to launch defensive bombing raids on U.S. targets to take out exile terrorists? Washington’s double standard maintains that an U.S. ally’s action by definition “defensive,” but that an enemy’s retaliation is by definition “offensive.”

Fourth, the U.S. often portrays itself as a neutral peacekeeper, with nothing but the purest humanitarian motives. After deploying forces in a country, however, it quickly divides the country or region into “friends” and “foes,” and takes one side against another. This strategy tends to enflame rather than dampen a war or civil conflict, as shown in the cases of Somalia and Bosnia, and deepens resentment of the U.S. role.

Fifth, U.S. military intervention is often counterproductive even if one accepts U.S. goals and rationales. Rather than solving the root political or economic roots of the conflict, it tends to polarize factions and further destabilize the country. The same countries tend to reappear again and again on the list of 20th century interventions.

Sixth, U.S. demonization of an enemy leader, or military action against him, tends to strengthen rather than weaken his hold on power. Take the list of current regimes most singled out for U.S. attack, and put it alongside of the list of regimes that have had the longest hold on power, and you will find they have the same names. Qaddafi, Castro, Saddam, Kim, and others may have faced greater internal criticism if they could not portray themselves as Davids standing up to the American Goliath, and (accurately) blaming many of their countries’ internal problems on U.S. economic sanctions.

QUESTION:

Do you agree or concur with the analysis of the good doctor, Mr. America?

Finally, nearing the end of his counter-thesis to my article, Mr. America introduced me to the public and bewilderment, even quoted my resume.

COMMENT:

Sir, for the record, I am not the one who put my academic record or intellectual credentials to the said site, rather it is the administrator of the same.

Nonetheless, be that as if may, it is my considered view and so hold that my educational attainment has nothing to do with my firm conviction with regard to the issue under discussion.

Hence, highlighting the three degrees under my belt is unnecessary.

To conclude this rejoinder or answer to your counter to my article, let me state that I maintain the strong view, Mr. America that your country is the prime danger to mankind due to your greed, fear, paranoia and pride.

In the straightforward and categorical words of comrade Ernesto “Che” Guevara:

The main enemy of humanity is the United States of North America.   

DOWN WITH US IMPERIALISM!!!!

DOWN WITH ALL FORMS, KINDS AND TYPES OF IMPERIALISM!!!!

 

   

 

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About Jose Mario de Vega

The writer has a Master's degree in Philosophy, a law degree and a degree in AB Political Science. He was previously teaching Philosophy, Ethics and Anthropology at an institution of higher education in the Nilai University College at Nilai, Negeri Sembilan, Malaysia. He is currently a lecturer at the College of Arts, Department of Philosophy at the Polytechnic University of the Philippines. As of the moment, he is preparing to publish his first book entitled "Dissidente". It is a collection of his articles, commentaries and op-ed published by various newspapers in Southeast Asia.

Post Author: Jose Mario de Vega

The writer has a Master's degree in Philosophy, a law degree and a degree in AB Political Science. He was previously teaching Philosophy, Ethics and Anthropology at an institution of higher education in the Nilai University College at Nilai, Negeri Sembilan, Malaysia. He is currently a lecturer at the College of Arts, Department of Philosophy at the Polytechnic University of the Philippines. As of the moment, he is preparing to publish his first book entitled "Dissidente". It is a collection of his articles, commentaries and op-ed published by various newspapers in Southeast Asia.

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Jetlag807
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GRP; I can understand (though do not agree) with posting this authors previous article but this is just way beyond reason and logic. Is the GRP site now the official forum for Philippine Communists?

To the author; You need to find a new hobby. Why not try looking at your own pathetic government and find out why things are so dire in the Philippines instead of passing the blame to someone else? Each and every country on the planet has skeletons! Get over it! One more thing… Try writing an article without 95% of it being “cut-and-paste”!

benign0
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It’s a point of view just like all the others published by the rest of the authors here. To your question on whether GRP is now the “official forum” for Philippine commies? What do you think? Sounds like a dumb question to me.

Jetlag807
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The question was rhetorical… Let me know how the new anti-American format works out.

Libertas
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The hypocricy of communism and/or the radicalism of islamists represent the twin terrors in many societies, feeding on the poor and the uneducated to further self promotion and not self-righteousness; appealing to the quasi-intellectual middle class who can have a voice for their frustration and also self promotion; appealing to the power brokers as a means of harnessing followers, and self agrandissment. Inevitably erroneous propaganda and a blinkered view fuel a distorted perspective of a world they don’t understand or feel they belong and to destroy is always easier than to build. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially… Read more »
Aramis Alvarez
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/sarcasmmode on I already expressed my sentiments on this whole topic elsewhere. In a nutshell: The U.S. is FAR from being the best country in the world in terms of looking at what its done in the past century. That said, its a hell of a lot better than what some of the Philippines’ neighbors have been like. No we may not be the best country, heck, we may NOT even have the best GOVERNMENT (a lot of citizens like this Centrist-Libertarian leaning dude feel that way)but its certainly better than where many in the Philippines are reading this from.… Read more »
Trosp
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@ Aramis

Your comment is an oversimplification, but then, why not.

IMO, your comment is not a sarcasm.

cardcrusher
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OP I find you extremely naive in thinking that the average American will think about the destructive consequences of US foreign policy in your original article (it’s not even on their radar). Nevertheless, I will you defend you from those who criticize your alleged lack of sympathy to the victims of the Boston bombings. Your critics resemble those 2003 Iraq supporters who spew the nonsense of “defend the troops”. Those supporters don’t even think of the Iraqis whose land is being conquered and their institutions bastardized. Those who criticize you for your lack of compassion don’t even think about the… Read more »
Trosp
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@cardcrusher

“Your critics resemble those 2003 Iraq supporters who spew the nonsense of “defend the troops”. Those supporters don’t even think of the Iraqis whose land is being conquered and their institutions bastardized. ”

Iraq being conquered and their institutions bastardized?

Care to cite the links where you got them. Then we can have a point of discussion.

As for now, I can comment that Iraq was freed from a mass murderer who would have no compunction in using WMD in eradicating those who are non-believers.

Trosp
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And I can also comment that Philippines is now having a hard time protecting it’s shorelines because we are not anymore in the US 7th Fleet direct area of responsibility.

Trosp
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And cardcrusher, are you just a troll? Or putting it mildly, a drive-by commenter?

cardcrusher
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Tsorp
The moment the US invaded Iraq, it violated its sovereignty and bastardized its institutions. The WMD you cite has been been proven to be false, and the sources that the Us and UK relied upon have been proven to be non credible. Heck, German intelligence repeatedly warned those two countries that the intel they based their WMD claims was bad.

Trosp
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@cardcrusher Let’s deconstruct your comment. According to you – “The moment the US invaded Iraq, it violated its sovereignty and bastardized its institutions.” The way I see it – An argument why invasion of Iraq is legal according to international lawyer – “Paul Schott Stevens, JD, Partner in Dechert, an international law firm, Andru E. Wall, Professor of International Law at the US Naval War College, and Ata Dinlenc, JD, Attorney with Kaye Scholer LLP, wrote in a 2003 essay titled “The Just Demands of Peace and Security: International Law and the Case Against Iraq,” published by the The Federalist… Read more »
Trosp
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You may just consider my comment is from a short minded commenter by benign0’s standard.

Gerry
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LOOK, a thesis! What long-winded BS. How many people does the author think actually read the above explanation/article? I got through 4 paragraphs and after that..ugh!

Saddamm may have had WMD’s and the Western forces just did not find them.Whether a War should have been fought, IDK and do not really care. Yes, that is correct, I do not care! The people waging war are going to do it whether I like it or not.and regardless of the author who HATES THE U.S.A..

Trosp
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“I got through 4 paragraphs and after that..ugh!”

Just the poster’s name and it’s ugh! It’s him again, not the Superman, but the Superlative dude.

I’m counter-commenting on the readers’ comments.

Trosp
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@Gerry

My justification in telling the readers that just by the poster’s name –

http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2013/03/self-destruction-the-question-of-suicide-and-the-tendency-to-harm-oneself/

Read the comments to know how his mind works.

Gerry
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Ur a super-sleuth,Yes?…NOT!!! IDK who Jose Vargas and I do not care. He hates the USA’s domination of the world…that is his business, but if he wants to cry about it, OR defend himself from the critics he will no doubt attract, too bad. He would not like what the Emperor and his troops were going to do to the Filipino people and had the USA not come to the Filipino’s rescue he would be speaking Japanese or Chinese right now. and if it were Chinese he were speaking he would not have the freedoms he has now. Such as… Read more »
Yup
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Yep! A thesis! probably dusted from his old bookshelves from his UP days.. Its already 2013 not Vietnam War period and Liberalists-Dems in power already in the White House, is this guy some nostalgic 60s hippie? Akala ko tapos na time ni Esposo, may kakambal pa pala sya..

XNA
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since no one’s mentioned it…the bombers weren’t even from Afghanistan or any other of those countries you sympathize with mainly,they’re from Chechnya, Russia, they’re russians,granted, russian islamic extremists. It’s nobody from the countries you defend, these are Russian Islamic extremists defending the dogma practiced from the same extremists in the Middle East. As for US and Russia’s ties expected to be strained,it looks otherwise,Russia sees this as an opportunity to mend ties, Russia wants the West to understand that the Islamist activity in the North Caucasus is a threat not only to Russia, but the US and Europe as well.… Read more »
Gerry
Guest

The last paragraph says it all, Jose Vargas should tell his gov’t. to stop asking for or even accepting the aid the USA sends to his country.
Vargas reply will no doubt be that the people the money is supossed to help never receive it, as if that is not his own corrupt gov’t.’s fault. The more I think about it the bigger the ingrate the author of the article sounds like. Filipino’s should send him to China and let him talk his dumb-shit over there and see what happens to him! There, I said it again trosp!

Hyden Toro
Guest

When people are enjoying life, and you bomb innocent people…it’s different from actual shooting war. Terrorists are scum of this Earth…

sittingpretty
Guest

This hateful, unskilled writer is a blight on GRP. I’m not even going to waste time asking if he’s sure he supports democracy in the world, because this article is so obviously one-sided and the timing of its writing, before the victims who died have even been buried, speaks only of an unbridled disdain towards one nation.

Attila
Guest

Can the USA ever get credit for anything?
How about just one?
If the education system is not in English than you can not export your labor like you do now. You may not realize it but your most important advantage in the labor market of the world is the the fact that the OFWs speak English.
I just saw a documentary about the difficult life of the Indonesian maids in Malaysia. Compare that to the Filipino maids. Night and day. It is all because they don’t speak English and the Filipinos do.

Amir Al Bahr
Guest

Jose Mario de Vega,

If you plan on further elaborating on a reply to Mr. America, let me give you a bit of advice:

It’s not worth it.

Jim Arndt
Guest
Jose Mario de Vega Your views are what they are and I support you right to those views. I encourage people to listen because this tells everybody exactly where you stand and its out in the open. This is an exercise in progressive thinking, it is amazing that there are comments available since the progressives do not want anyone questioning the wonder and enlightened knowledge they have. I like your picture of the unfortunate Japanese bombing victims and how these people are victims of the USA. You fail to mention the Rape of Manila, the Chinese, the Bataan Death March… Read more »
christy
Guest
I respect America but it’s total ignorance to say much about the religion you hardly studied about. Not every Muslim person thinks the way these scums do who cause havoc among innocent people. Please, I’m not even Muslim and generalising their belief system makes one no better than those pathetic radicals. Indonesia has the biggest Muslim population in the world and yet majority think just as secular as the Americans. This is unfortunate it happened and it’s just incidental that they’re Muslims (think of the Sandy Hook massacre – was it because the kid’s beliefs were Christian/agnostic/atheist? Again stop judging… Read more »
Jim Arndt
Guest
It is fact that the Muslim community does not believe in religious freedom. Indonesia has outlawed some religious groups, what about Banda Ache and East Timor not to mention the support for the Terrorist in Sulu and Jolo. Sandy Hook was by a mentally ill person that was drugged up, even columbine the attackers were kids who are mentally ill on drugs (drugs = prescription legal ones). It would be like saying Filipina’s are bad because McVeigh’s (Oklahoma City Bomber and atheist) wife was from the Philippines. Most (90%) faith based attacks have been by Muslims. Muslims even in the… Read more »
Trosp
Guest

I should also have added the word “wholesale” to intentionally.

christy
Guest
Well think about the Crusades then. Many people, even more so than how many terrorist groups under the name of Islam, killed many through the ages – all in the name of our Christian God! Then there were also those suffered through the Inquisition and all those witch hunts, and then there’s my dad who suffered abuse when he was still serving as an altar boy… should I go on to say that as a whole Christians or Christianity are hypocrites and well judged by many of atheists/ sceptics as evil? This is what I mean to say that you… Read more »
Trosp
Guest

@christy

“Not every Muslim person thinks the way these scums do who cause havoc among innocent people.”

So how many do you think they are?

More than 50% or less?

I would say the number is more than 50%

Why?

I still have to read something that says killing innocent civilians is a justification for a Muslim cause from any Muslim websites.

Trosp
Guest

Correction –

“I still have to read something that says killing innocent civilians is a justification for a Muslim cause from any Muslim websites.”

To read –

“I still have to read something that says killing innocent civilians is NOT a justification for a Muslim cause from any Muslim websites.”

Trosp
Guest

Correction again –

““I still have to read something that says killing innocent civilians is NOT a justification for a Muslim cause from any Muslim websites.”

To read –

“I still have to read something that says INTENTIONALLY killing innocent civilians is NOT a justification for a Muslim cause from any Muslim websites.”

Johnny Saint
Guest

Trosp,

Maybe you should just re-write the sentence. I get your point but it’s getting a little confusing with you adding the changes bit by bit afterward.

Trosp
Guest

@J. Saint

Thanks for getting the point.

Perhaps, I should not have done it in installment basis.

I’m just trying something.

christy
Guest

Again this is load of crock. Why don’t you go and live in Indonesia for some time and there you see for yourself whether or not every Muslim you meet is a potential terrorist. And take note there are many filipinos who work there in white collar jobs in contrast to other Asian nations such as HK, middle east and malaysia. Experience what their cultures are because Indonesia has various cultures that make up for what it is.

Jim Arndt
Guest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Indonesia

In the 2010 Indonesian census, 87.18% of Indonesians identified themselves as Muslim (predominantly Sunnis, also including Shias and Ahmadis), 6.96% Protestant, 2.91% Catholic, 1.69% Hindu, 0.72% Buddhist, 0.05% Khong Hu Chu, 0.13% other, and 0.38% unstated or not asked.

Jim Arndt
Guest

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Malaysia
Housing Census 2000 figures, approximately 60.4 percent of the population practised Islam; 19.2 percent Buddhism; 9.1 percent Christianity; 6.3 percent Hinduism;

christy
Guest

Indonesians though Muslims are by far one of the most secular I’ve ever met. They don’t spew even as much hatred as some of these threads here who just bash Muslims and their beliefs. They even like to watch Hollywood films. You haven’t travelled to Indonesia yourself so why do you insist on such claims that they are all collectively bad. By the way, Indonesia’s economy is even faring better than Philippines, the supposedly Christian nation of Asia.

Johnny Saint
Guest
Christy, For the record, Americans are clueless about a lot of things. But you shouldn’t be just as clueless about the Muslim problem that ALL non-Muslims face. When a religion’s primary teaching exhorts its adherents to subjugate non-believers and exact a tax (jizyah) upon subjugation we can pretty much surmise that living in harmony with other peoples isn’t their priority. When their response to a refusal to convert to Islam or the refusal to pay the tax is a violent war, we can be assured that the there was never any intention to practice tolerance but an explicit effort to… Read more »
christy
Guest

Are all mentally ill youth then are terrorists?

Jim Arndt
Guest

Why don’t you live there since its so great.Oh yea that is why millions want to com to the USA because it is so bad here. BTW the Muslims where the first to “crusade” across the middle east to Spain in 700AD where they killed those they could not convert and where only stopped in Europe by Charles (The Hammer) Martel of France. So you really need to read your history.

christy
Guest

And who killed more and longer? Sorry, you have to read through the history books again. And fox news isn’t the most reliable news, in fact it’s got the worst as far as journalism is concerned. I watch and read Al Jazeera, BBC, and ABC Australian news channels.

Johnny Saint
Guest
What the deuce are you talking about?! What has mental incapacity got to do with this thread? Are you defending the Boston bombers as mentally ill? You’re claiming these brothers decided to go back to Russia (and quite possibly Chechnya) because they were mentally deficient? Built bombs with detonators because they were not in control of their actions? That’s foolish! And disingenuous. Their background, their online activity, all but indicated the time and place of their attack. And now you want to blame everyone else for what was their conscious act?! Don’t be absurd! It borders on offensive. The facts… Read more »
Jim Arndt
Guest

Ok Christy is just a Troll because she just waving her hands while showing no facts…really BBC and Al Jazzera that says it all. BTW the Muslim “crusade” lasted from 6th century until the 15th when the Ottomans took Constantinople in 1453.

christy
Guest

And the so-called Christians also took Spain which was once populated by Muslims. You see, you’re just so prejudiced against Muslims generally because your government steal their oil and make attempts to look good to everyone by saying that they’re heroic in everything they do.

christy
Guest

Because these terrorists were identified as muslims it should mean therefore that all are terrorists? I don’t defend these sorry excuses for human beings and fyi their uncle, a Muslim himself, even condemned their acts as disgraceful to their community. So why should you call out Islam as evil religion and all its followers as such just because of the few associated had done heinous crimes to your nation?

Jim Arndt
Guest

Keep talking your digging a deeper hole

Johnny Saint
Guest
Christy, Stop trying to confuse the issue by regurgitating slogans from the altar of political correctness. You still haven’t refuted the facts as they have been revealed: 1. The bombers in Boston were Muslim; 2. Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder of the two, created a YouTube channel in 2012 devoted to jihad; 3. Tamerlan was against any suggestion of peace or any association with American figures, such as Martin Luther King; 4. The Tsarnaev’s uncle expressed that their terrorist leanings go back at least as far back as 2009; 5. In 2011 the Russian FSS warned the American FBI that that… Read more »
Trosp
Guest

@Christy

Simple question –

Who are the people in Spain before the Muslim takeover?

Well, I know you’ll refuse to answer that one.

Attila
Guest

We (Hungarians) wish we had the USA as our colonial masters as oppose to the Soviet Union. We rebelled against the Communist and asked the USA in 1956 to come and stay but we got screwed by Vega’s commie friends the “Evil Empire”. We had no say in our fate we were not blessed with American protection so we got F**** by the Soviet Union. My message to those anti Americans in the Philippines is that you are all idiots.

cardcrusher
Guest
It’s sad that many people here of Filipino descent are defending the imperialist and destructive behavior of the US gov’t. Many of you should know better. After all, the US gov’t cited the Christianizing mission as a main reason to subjugate the Philippines in the late 19th century. The pretext of democracy, threat of wmd, and anti communism have been thoroughly accepted by apologist of US imperialism in this blog entry. Shame on you Uncle Tomases. It should come natural for those apologists to have sympathy for the victims of Boston bombing, Do you even have sympathy to those victims… Read more »
Jim Arndt
Guest

:P:….Troll….LOL

XNA
Guest
and look! not a single peep about Chechnya’s war for self determination and their abuse of human rights. Remember, these bombers are from Chechnya. If you’re going to bark about corruption, don’t just bark at just Arroyo, bark at everyone. If you’re going to bark about countries fighting against terrorists, bark. at. everyone. I wonder though, since if you don’t want to be ‘subjected to US’ ‘christianizing mission’ to subjugation Philippines’,would you rather prefer to be subjugated by the extremist terrorists instead? *btw, I thought Spain subjugated your peoples to a ‘christianizing mission’, and as far as ‘christianizing’ goes, I… Read more »
Trosp
Guest
Yes, I should know better. If US bases is still around in the Philippines. Chicom could not be doing what they’re doing now with our shorelines. “Do you even have sympathy to those victims of drone attacks by the US?” How many casualties are in your mind? You don’t even know that they’re being use as shields by terrorists. In Iraq, compare the numbers of people’s lives that are saved if Saddam Hussein is still around with the casualties of the US force friendly fire. Do the people that were freed by US invasion of Iraq have your sympathy? I… Read more »
Trosp
Guest

My comment is addressed to cardcrusher.

christy
Guest

I don’t hate America as a whole but I don’t go on to make them out as saints either. It seems you share the same view as those in the Fox News channel who still pander to redneck mentality when confronted with issues such as the proposal of gun control laws.
I don’t want to label Americans in the same way you label Muslims. Cheers.

Jim Arndt
Guest

Fox News is popular because they provide both sides of the story and not just the paid provides of the Left (CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS). Unfortunately for you but not me it is a right to own firearms in the USA. It is one of the few right that says” IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS”. I don’t label Muslims they label themselves.

christy
Guest

I don’t live in America thanks. I live in Australia where violence isn’t as rampant as your country because of effective gun control. I still don’t hate your country, though. Cheers.

Jim Arndt
Guest

USA has 300+ million people and Australia has 23 million so Australia would be the 6th in the USA in population. No comparison. “I don’t want to label Americans in the same way you label Muslims. Cheers” or how Australia treats the Aborigines.

christy
Guest

Or how about how your ancestors treated the first nations, hmmm? The one thing though is that our government has apologised to our indigenous peoples officially on TV and there have been reforms to improve their way of life and those that keep it from happening don’t even represent Australia.

Jim Arndt
Guest

LOL Christy this is all you do, a great skit by Monty Python. Argument Clinic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c

christy
Guest

Under Saddam, there was a thriving Christian minority population, when he was gone now all those left have exiled to other more prosperous countries. This is something you don’t know and by far shows how little you know about the other side of the conflict- this is from someone who have spoken to an Iraqi Christian refugee.

Jim Arndt
Guest

And then

Johnny Saint
Guest

Before you spread more lies about Iraq and Saddam Hussein’s “benevolence” towards Christians, here’s a personal account of an Assyrian Christian under Saddam’s Iraq:

http://www.assyrianchristians.com/commentary_saddams_human_rights.htm

Trosp
Guest

Christy is very good in telling us her anecdotes.

No citations.

mcalleyboy
Guest
I see us getting tired of wars and dealing with Muslims and corrupt countries, with that said, trouble is that Liberals world-wide feel they should be compensated because they never reached their full potential and yet many that spit in the face of the American tax payer also collect social welfare as an immigrant, including the Pinoy. Where’s the outrage on China occupying Spratly Islands? US has already stopped worrying about countries that have kicked them out and maybe it’s time you get more funding from your Chinese bosses, the mega mall and condo builders, shipping companies that still get… Read more »
david
Guest
Actually Mr. Arndt I doubt whether you really know the story of the Australian Aborigine, particularly as it is today. I won’t be politically correct about it. Here are some snippets for you: Aborigines are entitled to additional and race specific housing, education and other entitlements. There are specific service delivery policies solely for aborigines. There are a set number of government jobs only open to Aborigines regardless of competitive merit. Most Australians would agree that historically the Aborigines were treated badly. In more recent times many Aboriginal leaders have admitted that the aborigine people have let themselves down by… Read more »
david
Guest

PS. The murder rate in the US is about 3 times that of Australia. Its based on murder per 100,000 of population, not raw numbers of murder.

Trosp
Guest

@david

(Seems to me my counter-comment got lost along the way.)

Total crime victims: Australia – 30.1% US – 21.1%.

I could be wrong in the data but here is the link http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime

We could have an exchange of notes if you’ll cite your source of your claim.

Johnny Saint
Guest

Pardon me. I think the data David uses is Wikipedia and the UN Office on Drugs and Crime.

Jim Arndt
Guest

David was just countering Christy utopia comments and never stated the USA was perfect. Just the opposite the USA has a very checkered past concerning minorities, i.e. slavery and the native Indians (I do know the story which almost mirrors the Australian Aborigines). As for crime when you have a free society things sometimes are not great but my point is if the USA is so bad why do people risk their life to come here or leave their entire family to be here? It is also harder to enforce laws in very high populations.

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